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  "thread": {
    "id": 773,
    "subject": "White Gold and ghosts",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "2000-01-31T11:02:17+00:00",
    "last": "2000-01-31T11:49:59+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0010-0252@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Michael Purdy",
        "address": "mcp at jhu.edu"
      },
      "date": "2000-01-31T11:02:17+00:00",
      "subject": "(whorl) White Gold and ghosts",
      "in_reply_to": null,
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          "text": "Hi folks,\n\n\tI'll join the delurking trend.\n\tI had two notes that I wanted to respond to.  First, to Alex's comments\nabout similarities between OBW and Thomas Covenant:  Covenant didn't get\nhis ring from Lena, the girl he raped.  He came into the Land wearing the\nwhite gold, which was his wedding ring (which he still wore, even though he\nwas divorced).  Sorry to hear you didn't like the Covenant books--I did,\nalthough I haven't reread them anywhere near as much as I've reread Wolfe.\n\tSecond, on the \"ghost in the middle of a novel\" remark from Wolfe--this\nmakes me think of the narrator of Peace, who, unless I'm misremembering, is\nrevealed as a ghost at the end of the book.  Can't remember his name,\nthough, and don't have my copy of Peace handy.  Although no one would dare\nto call Peace SF.  Hmm...have to give this some more thought.\n\nMichael Purdy\n  \n\t \n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
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    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0010-0253@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Kevin J. Maroney",
        "address": "kmaroney at crossover.com"
      },
      "date": "2000-01-31T11:49:59+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (whorl) White Gold and ghosts",
      "in_reply_to": "<whorl-v0010-0252@digest.urth.net>",
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          "text": "At 11:02 AM 1/31/00 -0500, you wrote:\nSecond, on the \"ghost in the middle of a novel\" remark from Wolfe--this\nmakes me think of the narrator of Peace, who, unless I'm misremembering, is\nrevealed as a ghost at the end of the book.  Can't remember his name,\nthough, and don't have my copy of Peace handy.  Although no one would dare\nto call Peace SF.  Hmm...have to give this some more thought."
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          "text": "Dennis Weir. And it's not revealed at the end; it's revealed, very\nobliquely, midway through. \n\n_Peace_ does have a science-fictional element: The factory built by\nDennis's \"uncle\" Julius manufactures a powdered orange drink made from\npotato powder. And a lot of the stories embedded within _Peace_ are\nfantastic--either fairy tales or supernatural horror. "
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          "text": "   Kevin Maroney | Crossover Technologies \n   kmaroney at crossover.com | (212) 777-1190\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
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