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This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "whorl", "thread": { "id": 814, "subject": "April Fool's Day posts", "messages": 2, "voices": 1, "first": "2000-04-09T06:21:02+00:00", "last": "2000-04-09T23:07:25+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Timothy Reilly", "address": "treilly at ozemail.com.au" }, "date": "2000-04-09T06:21:02+00:00", "subject": "(whorl) April Fool's Day posts", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "In urth.v028.n174, Steve wrote:\nFrom: Redhaven1 at aol.com\nSubject: Long Sun vs. New Sun\nDate: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 21:53:23 EST\nMIME-Version: 1.0\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=\"US-ASCII\"\nContent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit\n\nPlease don't crucify me. . .\n\n I got started on Wolfe when I was sick in the hospital. My parents\noffered to pick up some books to help pass the time and I suggested a book\nI\nhad heard of called The Book of the New Sun by Gene Wolfe. The only Wolfe\nbooks Border's had were the last two books of the Long Sun series." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Frankly," }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "I'm glad it was these two or I wouldn't be posting on this list today. I\nloved Calde and Exodus and immediately began to try to read all the Wolfe\nbooks I could find. I ordered the Book of the New Sun as a single volumn\nfrom the book club I was in. Upon reading it I was extremely\ndissappointed.\nI didn't think it was near as good as the Long Sun. To me, it seemed like\na\nstrange, disjointed fairy-tale that kinda wanted to be sci-fi. I admit,\nthe\nmood of the entire work was beautifully haunting, and when I get arround\nto\nreading it a second time I'll probably find a hundered things I missed,\nbut\nin my view New Sun was the worst, Urth of the New Sun was little better,\nand\nLong Sun was best. Short Sun is shaping up to be the best yet. Well,\nthat's\nmy two bits. I just felt I had to defend the Long Sun, because it's what\ngot\nme hooked. If I had started on New Sun, I don't think I'd be a Wolfe fan.\n\n-Steve" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Steve\n\nI've been trying to resist responding to your post, but then I thought to\nlook at its date. Explains everything!\n\nIf, on the other hand, it does not fall into the same category as Wolfe does\nStar Trek, I have to say your ranking of TBNS, UNS and TBLS is the precise\nopposite of mine (and some others' I notice...). However, much as I\ndisagree with your views, your crucifixion for holding them just might be an\noverreaction. (Though it is _tempting_ to punish such heresy with\nappropriate severity. This sounds like Patera Incus - whatever happened to\nhim?)\n\n_Fascinating_ idea to start TBLS in Vol 3. Maybe if I had I would've\nenjoyed it more. On the other hand maybe it's just hard for Australians to\nenjoy a series where a murderously malevolent goddess is named after a cute\nlittle marsupial like an echidna. (For those who don't know - or possess\nLexicon Urthus - an echidna is similar to a big hedgehog, and even more\nharmless). It's as if the gods are named Pas, Scylla, Goofy, Tartarous...\n\nBTW, it occurred to me that this (Echidna's name) seems the only example of\nthe\nnaming convention of Vironese males=animals being applied to a god (and a\nfemale one at that), in the sense that as far as I am aware all the other\ngods are not named after animals (or anything else in particular). Anyone\nhave any\nideas why?\n\nFinally, one more reason to think that it is not Horn writing OBW is that,\nin comparison with TBLS, he has thankfully (miraculously? mercifully!)\nlearnt how to\nwrite. Plus I suppose there's some symmetry if the author of the Book of\nHorn is infact Silk.\n\nTim\n\n\n\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun." } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Timothy Reilly", "address": "treilly at ozemail.com.au" }, "date": "2000-04-09T23:07:25+00:00", "subject": "(whorl) Re: April Fool's Day posts", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Can I rush to correct a howler in my last post before anyone else does?\n\nAn echidna is of course a monotreme, _not_ a marsupial. It accordingly lays\neggs, just like the even more adorable platypus (a so far unclaimed\npotential Vironese name). (Marsupials like kangaroos and wombats have live\nyoung which they suckle in pouches). Echidnas also eat ants and roll into a\nball when threatened.\n\nDoes any of this sound like our fearsome goddess? I think not.\n\nTim\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun." } ] } ] }