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  "archive": "whorl",
  "thread": {
    "id": 850,
    "subject": "Dreams",
    "messages": 3,
    "voices": 3,
    "first": "2000-06-22T09:46:36+00:00",
    "last": "2000-06-22T23:24:32+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0010-0375@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Adam Stephanides",
        "address": "adamsteph at earthlink.net"
      },
      "date": "2000-06-22T09:46:36+00:00",
      "subject": "(whorl) Re: Dreams",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
      "blocks": [
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          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Alex David Groce wrote:\nOn the prophecy thing--does anyone in the books ever attempt to make\na prophecy (augury) or even have a dream that doesn't foreshadow\nevents to come?  I think that although there's no time-travel going\non here, lots of things seem as locked in as in BOTNS."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Have any of Horn's dreams in OBW turned out to be prophetic yet?  I\nremember thinking that Horn spent rather a lot of time telling us his\ndreams, and none of them had any obvious relevance (except for the one\nin the pit which may have been Silk resurrecting him).  But I only read\nthe book once, so I could be wrong.\n\n--Adam\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0010-0376@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Alex David Groce",
        "address": "alex_groce at gs246.sp.cs.cmu.edu"
      },
      "date": "2000-06-22T10:00:10+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (whorl) Re: Dreams",
      "in_reply_to": "<whorl-v0010-0375@digest.urth.net>",
      "reply_link": "subject",
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          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Adam spoke:"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Have any of Horn's dreams in OBW turned out to be prophetic yet?  I\nremember thinking that Horn spent rather a lot of time telling us his\ndreams, and none of them had any obvious relevance (except for the one\nin the pit which may have been Silk resurrecting him).  But I only read\nthe book once, so I could be wrong."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Well, not that I recall, but then in Long Sun many of the more significant\n\"foretold\" events don't occur until later books (and some aren't really\nclear until a second reading--the prophecy is highly metaphorical, but\nclearly intentional at least at Wolfe's level)."
        },
        {
          "kind": "sig",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "\"And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.\" John 8:32\n--\nAlex David Groce (agroce+ at cs.cmu.edu)\nPh.D. Student, Carnegie Mellon University - Computer Science Department\n8112 Wean Hall (412)-268-3066\nhttp://www.cs.cmu.edu/~agroce\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0010-0377@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "David Duffy",
        "address": "davidd at qimr.edu.au"
      },
      "date": "2000-06-22T23:24:32+00:00",
      "subject": "(whorl) Dreams",
      "in_reply_to": "<whorl-v0010-0376@digest.urth.net>",
      "reply_link": "subject",
      "blocks": [
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          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Alex David Groce wrote:\n\nHave any of Horn's dreams in OBW turned out to be prophetic yet?  I\nremember thinking that Horn spent rather a lot of time telling us his\ndreams, and none of them had any obvious relevance (except for the one\nin the pit which may have been Silk resurrecting him).  But I only read\nthe book once, so I could be wrong.\n--Adam"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Horn says a tall man with a big nose or a spider: therefore that dream was\na favour from a good neighbour.\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
        }
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