# Dreams *The Whorl list — 3 messages, 3 voices, 22 Jun 2000* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Adam Stephanides *22 Jun 2000, 09:46* > Alex David Groce wrote: > On the prophecy thing--does anyone in the books ever attempt to make > a prophecy (augury) or even have a dream that doesn't foreshadow > events to come? I think that although there's no time-travel going > on here, lots of things seem as locked in as in BOTNS. Have any of Horn's dreams in OBW turned out to be prophetic yet? I remember thinking that Horn spent rather a lot of time telling us his dreams, and none of them had any obvious relevance (except for the one in the pit which may have been Silk resurrecting him). But I only read the book once, so I could be wrong. --Adam *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. --- ### Alex David Groce *22 Jun 2000, 10:00 · follows Adam Stephanides* Adam spoke: > Have any of Horn's dreams in OBW turned out to be prophetic yet? I > remember thinking that Horn spent rather a lot of time telling us his > dreams, and none of them had any obvious relevance (except for the one > in the pit which may have been Silk resurrecting him). But I only read > the book once, so I could be wrong. Well, not that I recall, but then in Long Sun many of the more significant "foretold" events don't occur until later books (and some aren't really clear until a second reading--the prophecy is highly metaphorical, but clearly intentional at least at Wolfe's level). ``` "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." John 8:32 -- Alex David Groce (agroce+ at cs.cmu.edu) Ph.D. Student, Carnegie Mellon University - Computer Science Department 8112 Wean Hall (412)-268-3066 http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~agroce *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. ``` --- ### David Duffy *22 Jun 2000, 23:24 · follows Alex David Groce* > Alex David Groce wrote: > > Have any of Horn's dreams in OBW turned out to be prophetic yet? I > remember thinking that Horn spent rather a lot of time telling us his > dreams, and none of them had any obvious relevance (except for the one > in the pit which may have been Silk resurrecting him). But I only read > the book once, so I could be wrong. > --Adam Horn says a tall man with a big nose or a spider: therefore that dream was a favour from a good neighbour. *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. ---