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  "thread": {
    "id": 908,
    "subject": "More Green Thoughts SPOILERS",
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    "first": "2000-08-07T16:09:00+00:00",
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      "message_id": "<whorl-v0011-0056@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Dennis G. Berdanis",
        "address": "endymion9 at mindspring.com"
      },
      "date": "2000-08-07T16:09:00+00:00",
      "subject": "(whorl) More Green Thoughts SPOILERS",
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          "text": "One thing that stood out to be while reading IGJ is Wolfe's treatment of\nsoldiers.  I noticed it in the Long Sun books and now again in IGJ but\ncouldn't quite put my finger on what bothered me.\n\nWolfe constantly keeps me off balance with the personality he gives to\nsoldiers, whether human or chem.  One instant they seem to be warming to\ntheir prisoners and becoming friends with them and the next they are\ntreating them roughly (like leaving Horn and Fava exposed in the snow).\nIt's probably an evolution of the torturer theme.\n\nThe other thing that keeps me off balance is the prisoners reactions to the\nsoldiers.  They never develop ill will towards their captors.  They don't\ntake it personally if treated roughly.  Once again an evolution of how they\nreacted to torturers?\n\nSo by the time humans have gotten to the Long Sun/Three Whorls era, have\nsoldiers inherited the torturer *mantel*?  There is some implication that\nthe clergy are the inheritors of the torturer \"cloak\" but the augurs do not\nexhibit torturer behaviors.\n\n\n\n\nDennis/Endy\nhttp://home.mindspring.com/~endymion9/index.htm\n\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
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