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  "thread": {
    "id": 920,
    "subject": "IGJ: altar scene",
    "messages": 5,
    "voices": 4,
    "first": "2000-08-09T23:17:40+00:00",
    "last": "2000-08-24T11:03:07+00:00"
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    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0011-0076@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Adam Stephanides",
        "address": "adamsteph at earthlink.net"
      },
      "date": "2000-08-09T23:17:40+00:00",
      "subject": "(whorl) IGJ: altar scene",
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          "text": "I was reviewing the altar scene, and I just noticed the following\nsentence, where Horn is narrating the manifestation of the Outsider: \"I\nknew that he was there, that if I turned, I would see them.\" (285)\n\nIs that \"them\" a typo?  If not, what does it mean?\n\n--Adam\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0011-0091@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Urash, Tom",
        "address": "turash at firstam.com"
      },
      "date": "2000-08-10T14:19:59+00:00",
      "subject": "RE: (whorl) IGJ: altar scene",
      "in_reply_to": "<whorl-v0011-0076@digest.urth.net>",
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          "text": "-----Original Message-----\nFrom: Adam Stephanides [mailto:adamsteph at earthlink.net]\nSent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 1:18 AM\nTo: whorl at lists.best.com\nSubject: (whorl) IGJ: altar scene\n\n\nI was reviewing the altar scene, and I just noticed the following\nsentence, where Horn is narrating the manifestation of the Outsider: \"I\nknew that he was there, that if I turned, I would see them.\" (285)\n\nIs that \"them\" a typo?  If not, what does it mean?\n\n--Adam\n\nThe triple god? Father, son & holy ghost?\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
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      ]
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    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0011-0093@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Adam Stephanides",
        "address": "adamsteph at earthlink.net"
      },
      "date": "2000-08-10T17:56:29+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (whorl) IGJ: altar scene",
      "in_reply_to": "<whorl-v0011-0091@digest.urth.net>",
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          "text": "Urash, Tom wrote:\n\n-----Original Message-----\nFrom: Adam Stephanides [mailto:adamsteph at earthlink.net]\nSent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 1:18 AM\nTo: whorl at lists.best.com\nSubject: (whorl) IGJ: altar scene\n\nI was reviewing the altar scene, and I just noticed the following\nsentence, where Horn is narrating the manifestation of the Outsider: \"I\nknew that he was there, that if I turned, I would see them.\" (285)\n\nIs that \"them\" a typo?  If not, what does it mean?\n\n--Adam\n\nThe triple god? Father, son & holy ghost?"
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          "text": "Perhaps, but I don't recall anywhere else where Horn indicates a belief\nin the Outsider's multiple nature.  And even if he did, the unexplained\nshift from singular to plural in the same sentence would still be very\nodd if both referred to the Outsider.\n\n--Adam\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0011-0096@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Jim Jordan",
        "address": "jbjordan at gnt.net"
      },
      "date": "2000-08-10T18:50:27+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (whorl) IGJ: altar scene",
      "in_reply_to": "<whorl-v0011-0093@digest.urth.net>",
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          "text": "At 05:56 PM 8/10/2000 -0700, you wrote:\n\nPerhaps, but I don't recall anywhere else where Horn indicates a belief\nin the Outsider's multiple nature.  And even if he did, the unexplained\nshift from singular to plural in the same sentence would still be very\nodd if both referred to the Outsider.\n\n--Adam"
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          "text": "The same one and many is seen in the first paragraph of Nightside.\n\tI'd say that the Outsider comes with His retinue, which is the angels and\nthe dead saints. But a hint of the trinity cannot be excluded. \n\nPat. Nut.\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
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    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0011-0166@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Peter Westlake",
        "address": "peter at harlequin.co.uk"
      },
      "date": "2000-08-24T11:03:07+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (whorl) IGJ: altar scene",
      "in_reply_to": "<whorl-v0011-0096@digest.urth.net>",
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          "text": "At 23:17 2000-08-09 -0700, Adam Stephanides wrote:\nI was reviewing the altar scene, and I just noticed the following\nsentence, where Horn is narrating the manifestation of the Outsider: \"I\nknew that he was there, that if I turned, I would see them.\" (285)\n\nIs that \"them\" a typo?  If not, what does it mean?"
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          "text": "Is the baletiger around yet?\n\nSBear.\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
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