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  "thread": {
    "id": 923,
    "subject": "IGJ thoughts SPOILERS",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "2000-08-10T08:40:59+00:00",
    "last": "2000-08-10T09:49:46+00:00"
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    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0011-0082@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Dennis G. Berdanis",
        "address": "endymion9 at mindspring.com"
      },
      "date": "2000-08-10T08:40:59+00:00",
      "subject": "(whorl) IGJ thoughts SPOILERS",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "Adam Stephanides wrote:\nJim Jordan wrote:"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "        1. The neighbor on Green switches the souls of Silk and Horn."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "That seemed"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "clear to me."
        },
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          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "."
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          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Not to me.  What the Neighbor says is \"'I can send your spirit into\nsomeone else, into someone whose own spirit is dying....Then there will\nbe one whole man there, instead of two dying men, one here and another\nthere.'\" (127, my deletion doesn't affect the meaning)  Nothing about\nmoving Silk's spirit at all.  And the Neighbor doesn't say \"there will\nbe one whole man and one dying man,\" just \"there will be one whole man.\""
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          "kind": "text",
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          "text": "Also note that is says \"instead of two dying men\" which implies to me that\nSilk was already dying and was not just in deep despair contemplating\nsuicide.\n\nI also don't see the evidence that Silk had committed suicide.  Perhaps he\nwas just at the end of his life span.  Many times when two people are joined\nin spirit and body for many years as he and Hyacinth (sp?) were when one\ndies the other doesn't live much longer.  Perhaps he was just dying from\nsadness/grief.\n\nWhat in the text leads the suicide believers to believe so?\n\n\nDennis/Endy\nhttp://home.mindspring.com/~endymion9/index.htm\n\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
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    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0011-0085@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Jim Jordan",
        "address": "jbjordan at gnt.net"
      },
      "date": "2000-08-10T09:49:46+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (whorl) IGJ thoughts SPOILERS",
      "in_reply_to": "<whorl-v0011-0082@digest.urth.net>",
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      "blocks": [
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          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "At 08:40 AM 8/10/2000 -0500, you wrote:\nAdam Stephanides wrote:"
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          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "Jim Jordan wrote:"
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          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 3,
          "text": "        1. The neighbor on Green switches the souls of Silk and Horn."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "That seemed\nclear to me."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "."
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          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "Not to me.  What the Neighbor says is \"'I can send your spirit into\nsomeone else, into someone whose own spirit is dying....Then there will\nbe one whole man there, instead of two dying men, one here and another\nthere.'\" (127, my deletion doesn't affect the meaning)  Nothing about\nmoving Silk's spirit at all.  And the Neighbor doesn't say \"there will\nbe one whole man and one dying man,\" just \"there will be one whole man.\""
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Also note that is says \"instead of two dying men\" which implies to me that\nSilk was already dying and was not just in deep despair contemplating\nsuicide."
        },
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          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "\tYeah. I did not remember right. We aren't told what might have happened to\nSilk's soul. My guess is that he is dead. For Silk to die and to pass on\nhis gifts to another in the process (i.e., his genetically enhanced body)\nis in keeping with the religious structure of the book. But with GW, you\nnever know!\n\nNutria\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
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