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  "thread": {
    "id": 94,
    "subject": "Grasping Throne of Darkness",
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    "first": "1997-02-14T02:50:00+00:00",
    "last": "1997-02-14T02:50:00+00:00"
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      "message_id": "<whorl-v0003-0141@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "m.driussi",
        "address": "m.driussi at genie.com"
      },
      "date": "1997-02-14T02:50:00+00:00",
      "subject": "(whorl) Grasping Throne of Darkness",
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          "text": "Reply:  Item #3607705 from WHORL at LISTS.BEST.COM@INET#\n\nHenry Rathvon,\n\nSo when are =you= going to write a critical essay on Wolfe? <g>  I'm\ngrinning, but I'm also serious.  Go on, do it!\n\nThere are pieces out there (tell me what you've read and I'll tell\nyou any others that I know of), but there's room for much much more.\n\nYou mention Borges and Nabokov, two authors whom Gene Wolfe has\npraised in one or two interviews (at least).  Since they are among\nhis favorite, I'm sure he would be delighted that you rank him with\nthem.\n\nRe: getting newcomers to read Wolfe.  Yes, proof positive that you\ncan lead a horse to water but you cannot force him to drink.  For a\nkick you might want to look up an essay by Harold Bloom (title\nescapes me . . . alga?  Do you know it?) where he writes about his\nobsession with A VOYAGE TO ARCTURUS by David Lindsay.  (And it is a\npretty interesting book, btw.)  Anyhow, he talks about reading copies\nto pieces (!) as well as trying to get other people to read it, and\nmost of them having the reaction you just described happening to you.\n\nWhich is why it is very important, imho, to establish the informal\nnetwork between all Wolfe fans--this mailing list is a great example!\nStand up and be counted, talk about what you love.\n\nRe: Wolfe isn't sf.  You know, you may not be nearly as lonely in\nthis idea as you might think.  Based on the experience of selling the\nLexicon, I have a developing theory that many, if not most, Wolfe\nfans actually read little or no sf at all.  (Which seems somewhat\nparadoxical to me--I discovered Wolfe after reading a whole lot of\nJack Vance.  Then word of mouth told me about THE BOOK OF THE NEW\nSUN, which I had initially resisted for its s&m title and cover, and\nthen, well . . . )\n\nSo I'm curious as to other Wolfe fans, their reading tastes (whether\nthey read sf or not, and if not, then how on Urth did they manage to\nfind Gene Wolfe?!  He's hard enough to find as it is!), and how\nwidespread is the idea \"Gene Wolfe is not an sf writer\" among Wolfe\nfans.\n\nalga,\n\nSo based on the Pas no-show theophany, as well as the sudden and\nincreasing powers of Tartaros toward the end, you divine that the\nrightful and dutiful son has ascended the throne of the Whorl?  (Pas\nin Saturn-like retirement?)  Good job!  I like it.\n\n=mantis=\n\nQuestions or problems to whorl-owner at lists.best.com"
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