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  "thread": {
    "id": 973,
    "subject": "Odin and Mithra",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "2000-08-24T10:19:07+00:00",
    "last": "2000-08-24T10:19:07+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<whorl-v0011-0170@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "akt",
        "address": "akt at attglobal.net"
      },
      "date": "2000-08-24T10:19:07+00:00",
      "subject": "(whorl) Odin and Mithra",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "Nacre said:"
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          "text": "I've been unable to find any reference to Odin's becoming\nlame or receiving a wound in his leg or foot.  I did, however,\ncome across one interesting foot fact about Odin.  During\nRagnarok, Odin is swallowed by Fenrir and dies.  His son\nVidar avenges him by kicking Fenrir in the mouth with a giant\nshoe until the wolf's jaws are torn asunder--just one giant shoe,\nnot one of a pair.  I suppose that could cause a limp."
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          "text": "I was looking through H. R. Ellis Davidson's -Gods and Myths of Northern\nEurope- (for reasons entirely unrelated to this list) and was struck by\nthis pair of sentences relating to Odin.\n\n\"He was the ancient one-eyed god, crafty and skilled in magic lore, a\ngreat shape-changer, and an expert in the consultation of the dead. He\nwas the rider on the eight-legged steed, the wanderer up and down the\nearth, the god knowing the secrets of travel between the worlds.\"\n\nThe steed is, on Blue, an elephant. Odin had a pair of ravens and a pair\nof wolves. Horn has only one of each, but that's fair enough.\n\nThe companions of Mithra, OTOH, are a raven, a dog, a snake and a\nscorpion. We lack only the scorpion, so far (but we have a series of\nsnakes). Moreover, Mithra is usually portrayed in ritual slaughter of a\nbull. That's what Silk does for a living too. I bring these fellas up to\nremind our pateras that Wolfe is nothing if not inclusive.\n\nAnd speaking of Oreb (weren't we?) I agree with Falcon on the Scylla (or\nKypris) question: it is not logical and it would make Oreb considerably\nless novelistically interesting than he is.\n\n-alga\n\n\n*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun."
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