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"Survey What, us feud? -alga *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun.…
04 Jun 2001, 12:09
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Have you tried spelling Sir Charles Latrom's name backwards? -alga…
29 May 2001, 20:29
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I swore I wasn't going to get into this one, but...sigh. Roy is right. "I say, you will not never grunt over me again." Double negative being part of GW's accent-addiction. And I …
23 May 2001, 20:34
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vizcacha inquired: That's Sure, these are but imaginary wiles And Lapland sorcerers inhabit here. Comedy of Errors Act 4--hmm. that's not quite right; the girls are called witch…
28 Apr 2001, 11:09
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Almost through -The Golden Compass-. Lapland witches!! That bear!! Ooooh! -alga…
24 Apr 2001, 22:07
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Jahlee's Song Somewhere, over the rainbow, way up high, there's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby. Somewhere over the rainbow, far from Blue, there the dreams that I dar…
01 Mar 2001, 10:23
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From Adam: I don't think it's a quarter as good as TDoDI. It's too disjointed; the gothic elements don't come together. Mouse and Owl, Smoky, the parents in the freezer, Corporal …
21 Sep 2000, 20:05
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the Green-Blue-Green transmission route. Do I have this right? An inhuma flies to Blue from Green during a conjunction and then spends the next seven years attempting to slake her …
30 Aug 2000, 20:59
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Said William: Not so; we'd all been counting eyes, but you got there first. Mr. Borski: This may well be true in "The Night Chough," which only you and mantis seem to have read.…
24 Aug 2000, 18:13
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From William: Well, my knowledge is pretty limited, but from what mantis and Patrick (both of whom seem to be in hibernation) have told us, Wolfe doesn't even use email. Many peop…
01 Aug 2000, 19:43
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I think there are six of us. That really isn't enough. Have others put in advance orders? What is the critical mass when we can start talking? -alga *This is WHORL, for discussi…
11 Jun 2000, 09:33
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I can see why Lewis never published "Prelude to Space." It's awful, just awful! The fragment of the second one is much better and the title is funny: "An Expostulation Against Too …
28 May 2000, 17:03
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Adam, A good argument, but it doesn't take into account that it is Vodalus who is the Pelagian, not Sev, who doesn't even understand the pass-phrase. Sev never seems to be interes…
22 May 2000, 20:57
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I'm hoping this is the beginning of an interesting discussion, not making positional points of my own. Alex, The idea that Communism I find it difficult to understand how such a…
19 May 2000, 20:04
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From the Kind and Helpful Ratso (what a paradox!)! For heavens's sake! Chaucer wrote "The Parliament of Foules" (Fowls) which I read in somewhat cribbed Middle English back when I…
03 May 2000, 23:07
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Like Grandfather Trout, I must rise to the fly. The Rat wrote (and I have snipped a good deal; I was going to snip all and start from scratch, but I can't): None of JC's works is…
26 Apr 2000, 21:20
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Rostrum rote: The scholarship is not that "contemporary" regarding Revelation. It was suspect from the gitgo, with several more sober bishops strongly objecting to it when the 4th…
18 Apr 2000, 23:56
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Ratty remarked: Not so closely as all that. Twenty-two years, IIRC, intervene. We have to assume, from the logic of fiction, that Silk has been alive and active, either on the Who…
09 Apr 2000, 21:11
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Rostrum said: Boys, boys, I'm not going to do your homework for you! Honestly, it's not that hard to figure out, thinking from back to front. And figuring it out makes the series…
03 Apr 2000, 21:31
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You're certainly entitled to think this way--and it's nice for LS to have a defender! What absolutely floors me, though, is that you were able to come in on the middle of the serie…
03 Apr 2000, 20:48
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Thomas questioned: Calvino's books have been available in English for decades. The one I reviewed (-Elephant Bangs Train-) came out in 1975 or so. Calvino is considered a major au…
25 Feb 2000, 11:26
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I agree with our new Danish member (welcome, Thomas, and please turn off that Rich Text feature for this list) that the Calvino influence, if any, is not so evident. Except for my …
23 Feb 2000, 21:36
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I find myself totally in agreement with the Rat, the new Reformed Rat, His Nutriciousness, who went back to contradict himself on "The Ziggurat." (Quote not included as it is quite…
29 Jan 2000, 10:45
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eyes Yves, it's awfully confusing, and deliberately so, but consistent with Wolfe's deliberate confusions in much of his writing. Nevertheless, that's a good catch of yours, and i…
22 Dec 1999, 19:21
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May I offer an entirely non-PC thoroughly female take? (We're not supposed to take gender-based positions.) Mantis is right. Foila is taken with Sev. Foila is flirting with Sev. Fo…
11 Nov 1999, 22:03
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I agree here. I have never understood the hostility toward this book. It seems radiant to me, a truly beautiful, immortal book and entirely necessary to the series. Tzad is wonderf…
06 Nov 1999, 22:21
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Bradbury and LeGuin will last as children's authors. Miller will last for people interested in the history of SF (as Bradbury and LeGuin will too, of course--the way Sheridan LeFan…
26 Oct 1999, 10:23
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Daniel, -The Sound and the Fury-, which I read in college, had long ago occured to me as something that might have influenced Wolfe, but only wrt -Fifth Head- (and we have detecte…
25 Oct 1999, 23:07
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All Yes, I think Wolfe definitely has a book on flower language--Hy's name is all too apt. Mrs. B. agrees that hawthorn is "hope," but I can't say what the hedge means here. Here'…
25 Jul 1999, 10:00
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Apologies if this and the next one get repeated. I sent them both yesterday, but, as Ranjit has cause to know, my newish ISP seems temperamentally allergic to the urth list, and th…
21 Jul 1999, 23:27
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From Wyman's Gardening Encyclopedia: Angel's Trumpet = Brugmansia The leaves and seeds of this Peruvian plant are poisonous. Sometimes grown as an ornamental for its large, whit…
20 Jul 1999, 07:32
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Nigel, How very nice to have a Virgilist aboard, and, even better, a Virgilist with a Vulgate concordance on his hard drive! Welcome. If you get too impatient to wait for your dai…
27 Nov 1998, 12:44
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He's turning up everywhere. I've just started to read Harold Bloom's -Shakespeare: The Invention of the Human-. On p 10: "Though G.K. Chesterton liked to think that Shakespeare wa…
06 Nov 1998, 20:31
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A letter I read today in the New York Review of Books can be seen as support for the theological reading of Silk. It responds to an essay by Simon Leys entitled "The Imitation of O…
02 Nov 1998, 18:50
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No argument, but the "horror" world is not the real world. Since the author's intent is to give frissons to the reader, everything, good and bad, is exaggerated. I think "pagan" i…
19 Oct 1998, 20:05
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Thanks, Alex, for the CE "Severus" and "Severian." Actually, I think I prefer the lite OED version, where one can fill in the blanks oneself. -alga…
18 Oct 1998, 21:00
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Rostrum, Don't be disillusioned! It's a very old word, with an impressive (and apt) OED citation. which I won't quote. It's related to "forlorn" with implications of loss, perditi…
25 Jun 1998, 19:14
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That is a depressing thought. Vodalus is ersatz to the bone, as symbolized by the false coin. His only redeeming feature is a certain courtliness toward Thea--but look how he betra…
17 May 1998, 22:03
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Oh, and I'm thinking Robin Williams for Hethor. He wouldn't even have to rehearse. -alga-…
14 May 1998, 07:57
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LOL (more than once) on Worst Case and Kramer casting. I like Miranda Richardson better than Karen Allen as Agia. Please don't stop! -alga-…
13 May 1998, 08:07
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Welcome, Matthew, Nessus Um, Nessus isn't now but *was* a coastal city. Can't recall off-hand who, but one of the "wise" characters (one of the ones we can trust) tells Sev that.…
11 May 1998, 09:03
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I tend to go along with Adam's explanation here, but I don't agree that it diminishes the story. I think there is something powerful and poignant about a middle-aged man's shock of…
09 May 1998, 18:17
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mantis, Well, GDItH, I own that book, that edition, and I feel absolutely cheated that it's under "B!" Jeez, is there no justice? But seriously, this is a clue that it is a false…
15 Mar 1998, 19:25
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Ron, check Urth (5) p 314-315 (hardcover, 1987, well after TS---impossible not to believe it's a deliberate, if glancing, reference: the word is not all that common). -alga-…
02 Sep 1997, 21:42
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vizcacha, Algonkian, eh? That's a help. A guy has promised to sent Inuit translations (or said he'd try, which I guess isn't the same thing since that was more than a week ago). I…
25 Aug 1997, 18:02
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mantis, why do you think the name of the nameless little girl in the Antechamber is like that of a starship crew member's job title? I wonder if we'll ever run into her again. -a…
15 Aug 1997, 06:58
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My second try with this one: Whoa, mantis, you're going too fast, especially since one of my posts didn't get there in sequence. You can't get that mantic that fast, without even …
07 Aug 1997, 12:56
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This is my third attempt to send this post: mantis, I was so sure you were going to call me on Cim that I checked this a.m. and, yes, both Buck in CALL OF THE WILD and White Fang…
07 Aug 1997, 12:53
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lasrach, the simple answer to your question, I think, is "yes." But this was my question originally, and I think Wolfe's answer is somewhat disingenuous. Consider: Tartaros has bee…
31 Jul 1997, 19:32
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I put that badly. The point really is that one can say "Jumping Jehosaphat!" without having the foggiest idea of who (or what) Jehosaphat was, simply because it's ingrained in trad…
29 Jun 1997, 23:03
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