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From: Lee Berman Yes, but as I understand it James’s theory supposes that this combination happened when Horn returned to the Whorl. Your attempts to identify Silk with a faun a…
21 Nov 2011, 13:02
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From: Lee Berman I think that view is untenable, and I support my contention with events described in the text, not chapter titles and formatting. If I were Marc, I should be fa…
21 Nov 2011, 12:56
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From: James Wynn She’s rationalising her guilt, I think. Here’s one scenario I think possible: Horn fell in and was badly concussed. [As with Auk before him, this was the prel…
21 Nov 2011, 12:36
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From: James Wynn Babbie got it wrong, unless he died at a very specific time: *********************************************************** Sunlight warmed me. I kept my eyes close…
21 Nov 2011, 01:29
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From: James Wynn She knows nothing about human life except that humans die easily and are eaten. She saw it happen her human, and she turned away without investigating. She did…
21 Nov 2011, 01:17
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From: Marc Aramini How would she know? She didn’t go down in the pit to check on him. She just assumed, which as we all know makes an ass out of u and me. - Gerry Quinn…
20 Nov 2011, 19:47
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From: Marc Aramini That’s why I qualified “indicates” with “strongly”. As for the first, he says the best part of his life was over, indicating that a worse part was…
20 Nov 2011, 19:39
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From: James Wynn I don’t think that about Neighbours and I don;t know where you think I have suggested it. Like humans, they clearly do often act in concert. I can’t understand…
20 Nov 2011, 19:18
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From: Lee Berman Or add fins and blowholes and they make pretty good whales. So you’re saying that Silk is a Neighbour? Because, IIRC, it was Silk you were identifying with a f…
20 Nov 2011, 19:04
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From: David Stockhoff All but the Increate are limited in their powers. If you want to argue that the Neighbours are subject to mad impulses, maybe you could say that makes them…
20 Nov 2011, 15:35
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From: David Stockhoff You’re missing the point. If they were trying to help him, they didn’t do a very good job of it, but that’s consistent with them doing as much as they coul…
20 Nov 2011, 15:00
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From: James Wynn She sees Quetzal as “the man who isn’t there”. And she sees Silk as “filled” during her exorcism, where everyone else looks hollow. Don’t know how those fit, b…
20 Nov 2011, 14:48
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From: Ant?nio Pedro Marques As you know very well, that was just intended as one of many examples of how he seems to know essentially diddley squat about the Neighbours. Having …
20 Nov 2011, 14:36
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From: Lee Berman a.. I kind of agree that there may be something more there, but at the same time the overt explanation seems perfectly sufficient: she and Marble don’t need h…
19 Nov 2011, 11:37
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From: James Wynn It’s just an example. He knows squat about the Neighbours. He knows all about the Whorl. And I haven’t got to that bit yet, but the Neighbours treat him as …
19 Nov 2011, 11:33
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From: Ant?nio Pedro Marques No dia 19/11/2011, ?s 01:15, "Gerry Quinn" <gerry at bindweed.com> escreveu: I said “too much amnesia to go around”. Silk-in-Horn’s got it, we think.…
19 Nov 2011, 11:22
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From: James Wynn Antonio is perfectly correct. ?Possibly the Mother’s worshippers cast their sacrifices into the waves instead of burning them. (I do not know, and offer the sugg…
19 Nov 2011, 01:15
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From: Marc Aramini That's because in the flashback scenes of OBW he's Horn, when he first gets moved into Silk's body he's Horn because Silk has suicided, when Pig gets t…
18 Nov 2011, 17:39
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From: James Wynn It’s not so easy: [Marble] “We had begun a child, a daughter.” She sighed again. “It was hard, dreadfully hard, to find parts, or even things we could make them…
18 Nov 2011, 17:37
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From: James Wynn But in the cast of characters of _In Green’s Jungles_ it says: ?INCANTO, the name by which the former Rajan of Gaon is known in BLANKO. He moves on. And whateve…
18 Nov 2011, 17:08
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From: David Stockhoff Ah, I don’t remember that from before and haven’t got to it yet. - Gerry Quinn…
18 Nov 2011, 17:04
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From: James Wynn Why do you believe that? There’s some evidence against it, I think. Hammerstone’s disquisition on officers and men. And the soldiers don’t sleep as people do,…
18 Nov 2011, 17:02
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From: Ant?nio Pedro Marques Whatever — when he stops writing he’ll be gone. Or at least that’s how I take it. The specific metaphor used (the cock’s blood) related to ink, but …
18 Nov 2011, 16:16
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From: James Wynn On 11/18/2011 9:37 AM, Gerry Quinn wrote: The bigger problem with the hat is that it’s connected to Pike. After all, it’s Pike that Silk saw. If the ghost ha…
18 Nov 2011, 16:10
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From: David Stockhoff It’s a minor issue. It can be explained away if he’s a time-travelling Rajan, though i’s still one more thing to be explained away. The bigger problem wit…
18 Nov 2011, 15:37
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From: David Stockhoff I agree — it’s a reasonable explanation for the hat *if* we think it’s reasonable that Pike is a time-travelling Rajan, which I still don’t. That makes sen…
18 Nov 2011, 14:42
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From: Lee Berman I'm completely with Marc on this. Brilliant analogy. The connection between inhumi and lianas (and trees and Neighbors) is primarily spiritual. There is…
18 Nov 2011, 14:27
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From: Marc Aramini Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 2:44 AM To: The Urth Mailing List Subject: [BGSpam]Re: (urth) Babbiehorn?: Was: a sincere question mostly for roy --- …
18 Nov 2011, 11:40
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From: Lee Berman That lianas are inhumi? I’m sorry, but while I find it understandable as a logical concept (that any A could actually be a form of any B) I don’t find it at all…
17 Nov 2011, 21:38
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From: James Wynn Whew, I’m glad he didn’t break into Mint’s room if that’s his game. If Pike is the ghost of Pike, the hat is easily explained — maybe it was Silk’s use of the h…
17 Nov 2011, 21:22
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From: James Wynn I searched and the following response is all I could find: Is that supposed to be an answer? If so, I don’t understand it. Why is the Rajan wearing it? - Ger…
17 Nov 2011, 20:32
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From: Gerry Quinn Maybe the ghost came from the hat! I’m serious — earlier Silk wore the hat in his mission, and he even preserved it from the unspeakable though unspecified use…
17 Nov 2011, 19:59
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From: Marc Aramini -- On Thu, 11/17/11, Gerry Quinn <gerry at bindweed.com> wrote: I proposed that Mucor possessed another bird, not Oreb, when looking for …
17 Nov 2011, 19:46
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From: David Stockhoff He looked into “the aged augur’s smiling face” and recognised him as Pike. He even recognised Pike’s hat. Why is the Rajan wearing Pike’s hat? Lots of pe…
17 Nov 2011, 19:43
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From: Lee Berman I’m comfortable with the idea of metaphor in genre literature also. Very often they do. But that doesn’t mean that every and any metaphor is intended to be rei…
17 Nov 2011, 19:31
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From: David Stockhoff I proposed that Mucor possessed another bird, not Oreb, when looking for Silk. - Gerry Quinn…
17 Nov 2011, 17:52
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From: James Wynn In the darkness. In the faint skylight from a curtained window. But he “saw” him so it must have been Oreb no matter what absurdly contrived explanation we hav…
17 Nov 2011, 17:12
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From: David Stockhoff Here is what I said: I then went on to give alternative theories that *don’t* involve Oreb lying, or other impossible things. - Gerry Quinn…
17 Nov 2011, 17:01
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From: James Wynn ********* **************** Actually, insofar as I have a theory, the above is pretty much it. The only thing wrong with it is it tries too hard to explain eve…
17 Nov 2011, 16:35
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From: David Stockhoff What “promising” theories are you talking about? And what impossible theories do I promote? If I’m joking I am careful to make it clear, for fear that som…
17 Nov 2011, 15:53
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From: James Wynn I suppose it would make sense that someone possessed by a dead god would appear dead. Assuming a dead god can get the motivation together to do the possession. …
17 Nov 2011, 15:46
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From: Lee Berman But what’s Phaea got to do with anything? She doesn’t appear to be of any great significance — I don’t even know whether she sided with Echidna or Pas. If we t…
17 Nov 2011, 15:38
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From: David Stockhoff Those aren’t straw-man theories. The Daleks of Saltimbanque Street was a joke theory. But Fr. Inire as the Botanic Gardens just took seriously Lee’s ideas…
17 Nov 2011, 13:51
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From: Gerry Quinn Pigs should be associated with Phaea, but there’s no obvious connection here. Perhaps Wolfe was thinking of the phrase “a silk purse in a sow’s ear”. As is gen…
17 Nov 2011, 13:08
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From: David Stockhoff Oreb can certainly deceive, as he did when he played dead when he was due to be sacrificed. If he can do that, he can surely lie if he wants. I don’t *thin…
17 Nov 2011, 12:51
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From: James Wynn Perhaps Silk is right about Oreb jumping down to the kitchen garden. Or perhaps there is some other explanation for what he saw (seemingly a bird, behind a curt…
17 Nov 2011, 00:44
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From: Larry Miller Maybe the fish that ate Mamelta. Other than that, I can’t think of any candidates. - Gerry Quinn…
16 Nov 2011, 22:49
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From: J Jankiewicz As I understand it they are messengers from the gods/Mainframe. They are used to convey instructions to the Cargo, and sometimes to travel between the Poles (ca…
16 Nov 2011, 22:20
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From: James Wynn From: James Wynn I’m just saying that there is no indication that they are together. Which is very odd, if your time travelling explanation has any validit…
16 Nov 2011, 20:07
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From: James Wynn Is she? Mucor, Pike and Oreb appear at roughly the same time and place, but no one of them is actually “with” any other. Silk wakes up and sees Oreb hop out the…
16 Nov 2011, 18:29
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