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If the beings in another iteration are sufficiently different from humanity that they could not be called human, then I suppose different rules would apply just as they do for in…
16 Aug 2010, 16:14
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Well, remember that in the Book of the Long Sun, the Outsider...the Increate of all Briahs...reaches out to Silk with the image of Jesus on the cross. if Sev's iteration of Briah…
16 Aug 2010, 15:22
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: My point, snarkily formed, was that humanity had a redeemer, just not in Sev's iteration of Briah. u+16b9…
16 Aug 2010, 15:06
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But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, “Why have you made me like this?” Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the …
16 Aug 2010, 14:22
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: This is cool. I detailed why Incus is a woman for general informational edification, rather than for help working out the theory. As I said, it's a point of fact for me--beyon…
16 Aug 2010, 14:13
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I'm not really "frustrated" with Roy, because, knowing him on the list as I have for quite a while, I realize where he is coming from. And I know that, often, I can't possibly ge…
16 Aug 2010, 13:24
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I said before that I don't think the settings (as opposed to the themes) of the Sun Cycle should be scrutinized theologically. For that reason, I don't really like the idea of a …
16 Aug 2010, 12:09
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This seems quite plausible. u+16b9…
16 Aug 2010, 11:47
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Roy, I don't think you and I are going to come to an agreement about this. Your statement "The two underlined parts of the [first] note are not related" is an "Uncle Andrew" mom…
16 Aug 2010, 09:44
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This was another JW...or a cognate if Josh was right. u+16b9…
16 Aug 2010, 02:05
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??? This is a strange argument. It would be mildly scandalous to be alone with a woman in an augur's residence at night. It would not be at all wrong for augurs to be in the casu…
16 Aug 2010, 00:53
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heh "letter" not "email".…
15 Aug 2010, 18:15
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Hmm..Interesting, since fulmar means "foul gull". Thanks. u+16b9…
15 Aug 2010, 18:12
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Tomayto Tomahto. Me neither. When Incus writes "our friend Bee. Bee himself." and then decides "Fulmar would be utterly thrown off the scent by _the male pronoun_", he is not re…
15 Aug 2010, 18:10
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The valet had been altered by Incus. Thus, "satisfaction" at asking how long since he had received his wages. Therefore, having already seen the chem and knowing full well what t…
15 Aug 2010, 15:40
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I think Viron must use linnaean taxonomy or a close cognate of it. At least is an old system that was employed by the Whorl imagineers of Vironese culture in the same way that th…
15 Aug 2010, 14:41
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That doesn't really work. 1) The valet was a male chem. "Nor would the trouble and loss of time go entirely unrecompensed; he, Incus, would at least have the satisfaction of inqu…
15 Aug 2010, 14:29
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Well, it wouldn't be much of a secret and it is hard to imagine that either the Charter or Vironese society would care much. Spider certainly doesn't bother to hide his preferenc…
15 Aug 2010, 06:37
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One other association that I meant to point out: a) hymen (derived from the Greek for "membrane" b) tympanic membrane in the ear drum c) incus (a bone in the ear drum) u+16b9…
14 Aug 2010, 19:50
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Well, Lee did. ;-) Some people --present company included-- are just better at making astounding conclusive leaps than others. u+16b9…
14 Aug 2010, 19:36
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1. Why Patera Inucus is a woman... 1.1 The Letters to Fulmar In Lake of the Long Sun, Incus is attempting to say something to "My Dear Friend Fulmar". The Patera is trying to exp…
14 Aug 2010, 19:34
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Well, lets assume that life on a planet was intelligently designed...that it was an artifice. And lets assume that after that moment and for 3 billion years following, although t…
14 Aug 2010, 17:00
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Nicholas, Friendly (albeit unrequested) advice. The best way to get people to respond to you is to quote what they said and put your response after. u+16b9…
13 Aug 2010, 23:28
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True. But, assuming one lived in an environment where all life was intelligently designed, questions about how an undefined intelligent life might have arisen naturally in an som…
13 Aug 2010, 23:26
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As I understand the theory of Intelligent Design, it posits that some natural and biological phenomena/processes are best understood and predicted if they are addressed with sci…
13 Aug 2010, 21:49
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Oops! This should have gone out in this thread.…
13 Aug 2010, 20:13
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As I have said before, I think it is a mistake to analyze these stories to see how their settings (as opposed to their themes) conform to systematic theology. However, I'll play …
13 Aug 2010, 20:08
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So then, supposedly OUR universe is some Briah (n+)? Do I have this right? u+16b9…
13 Aug 2010, 19:24
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Made from ukaris? u+16b9…
13 Aug 2010, 18:28
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What are these coins made of that feels so greasy? I was thinking polished brass, but I don't know. Any metallurgists out there? u+16b9…
13 Aug 2010, 18:23
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I can appreciate the never-say-die attitude, but I think that part surely _must_ be settled. As Ryan pointed out in an earlier post, Malrubius says he is not sure but thinks the …
13 Aug 2010, 18:20
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Lee, As someone who has faced IMO not-always-fair-play from objectors to his exegeses, this is just the way it is. Those most likely to give your models and explanations the mos…
13 Aug 2010, 14:02
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Hopefully, some portion of mankind evolved into Cajun restaurants. u+16b9…
12 Aug 2010, 21:15
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I'm also perplexed by this statement but I am certain that it *doesn't* mean that Yesod is the mantavara immediately *after* Briah. Could it be that Tzadkiel was already travelin…
12 Aug 2010, 21:10
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I was thinking of the giant crabs wandering on the beach that the protagonist encountered much later in in the Future. :-) u+16…
12 Aug 2010, 20:46
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eh...It could be worse. Urth's future for humanity is at least better than what HG Wells foresaw The Time Machine. u+16b9…
12 Aug 2010, 20:21
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If it is a Wolfe novel, it is almost certainly not a 1 to 1 mapping. I the other fellow might have been a phyiscal or psychic clone. Or software epitome that was created long ago…
12 Aug 2010, 15:09
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I don't think Wolfe was considering the Noahtic covenant when he wrote about the flood. Does he mention it in the Sun cycle at all? The Noahtic covenant could hardly be as proble…
11 Aug 2010, 17:54
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Baxter jumps out of a window and ends up in Faeri or the Spiritual World of Black, werewolves, and dream-traveling psychics. He has to crawl back into the window and walk back to…
11 Aug 2010, 17:44
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If this is true, then how does this jibe with what Severian says in Citadel: "But the beings Humanity had shaped into what men and women wished to be escaped, opening a passage to…
11 Aug 2010, 17:19
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Have you read The Sorcerer's House? u+16b9…
11 Aug 2010, 16:20
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Lee, Does this explanation posit a meta-universe called, say, "Madregot"? u+16b9…
11 Aug 2010, 15:30
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The decision to leave seems to be his own. I can't know this emphatically, but that was my conclusion based the thread and conversations with him afterward. u+16b9…
11 Aug 2010, 15:11
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But Lee, there's no reason for the Hierogrammates to get involved in Briah if they came from there. The event that led to the creation of their race has positively occurred there…
11 Aug 2010, 15:08
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Lee, The problem is much bigger than this single phrase. As I detailed, that entire passage makes the construct that Yesod is in our chain of universes untenable, however much I…
11 Aug 2010, 13:47
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So how can Apheta say that Severian's friends are unborn? How can they be explicitly dead or unborn? I would think that in Yesod both would be true since it beyond the entire his…
10 Aug 2010, 22:47
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Well, she is saying that in Yesod they _are_ traveling back in Time, no? I'm not sure how to clamp this to what Severian said about Yesod in _Citadel_. This seems to draw Yesod a…
10 Aug 2010, 19:49
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This one is resolved easily enough. The Hieros were humans of a previous universe. They were of Severian's race. u+16b9…
10 Aug 2010, 19:28
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Well, the Severian says here that the technology is the same. Tzakiel (a Hierogrammate) IS the ship, right? So unless Tzakiel has a method of travel that is different from his br…
10 Aug 2010, 17:31
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True. In fact, just after this very passage Severian says that the power to travel the corridors of Time is the same for escaping the universe. "The hammer they wield is their ab…
10 Aug 2010, 15:27
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