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Seems like pretty good arguments for Shadow Children to be native to Ste. Anne. I think James might agree. But Gerry says his conclusion is the best. What am I supposed to do? Igno…
04 Jan 2011, 20:43
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:- ). Go for it!…
04 Jan 2011, 20:34
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Of course, of course! Quite a bit of knowledge to be packed into a short amount of time, eh? Where did he learn it all? Studies with Dr. Veil, perhaps? Obviously, obviously! And…
04 Jan 2011, 20:33
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Quite the contrary! I unfortunately trend toward the mission of puncturing pomposity and elitism in the arts. A bit of artistic dignity is fine but as it increases it gradually mo…
04 Jan 2011, 18:56
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An indeterminite number. Like drawing Neighbors or Shadow Children. Just make sure some of the towers extend to Green :- ).…
04 Jan 2011, 17:58
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Sounds a bit similar to David's ideas about an ancient race on earth of pixies, fairies or whatever they might be (Tzadkiel clones?). I kinda like my suggestion too in regard to su…
04 Jan 2011, 17:53
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I'd like to suggest the adjective "comics" be changed to "visual arts" or something like that. Neil has had more than one of his works transferred (through an obviously very expens…
04 Jan 2011, 16:18
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My point is that only Marsch could be aware of Dollo's Law, unless the imitation was 99.999% perfect, including the neural connections for Marsch's thumb. My point is that a dray…
04 Jan 2011, 13:52
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Gerry I'm in need of further explanation to understand your theory. You are implying an abo once had a thumb but evolved to not need one, then rediscovered the need while imitating…
04 Jan 2011, 03:23
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There is a lot of argument for this view. I don't want to deny its merit. Still, Wolfe is a religious guy. A Christian/Catholic. In the Bible, which came first Adam or evil? (Serpe…
04 Jan 2011, 01:41
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Erm..are we talking about the Gene Wolfe who wears a Texas bolo tie, a Chicago moustache and quotes Roger Rabbit and enjoys Pinnochio, the Disney movie? Some here have attempted t…
04 Jan 2011, 01:27
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Actually, a pancreas is a surprisingly small organ, sort of a membranous strip on the small intestine. But, I quibble. Tony, this objection would seem to be unassailable. Except..…
04 Jan 2011, 01:17
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See my last post. (and remember I am playing a role) No, not overthinking. Entirely and directly to the point, I think. We on this list have focused on the principle of feigning…
03 Jan 2011, 19:10
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We we on earth don't have any other Creations to compare to. (hmm..Gondwanaland predates the evolution of primates but I wonder it Wolfe thinks it corresponds with the evolution o…
03 Jan 2011, 18:59
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If you had written just that one statement and stopped, our disagreement would be at an end. Unfortunately the rest of your post is peppered with the likes of self-promoted certai…
03 Jan 2011, 18:50
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I think this is a very astute assessment of a symbol. It might disturb some, though. I agree with David but I would add the complementary balance: All truth contains lies. All r…
03 Jan 2011, 17:31
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You'll have to help me out with these. I am unfamiliar. It wouldn't be totally lame if Green = Urth, heh. In a sense I think there is some sort of connection which makes the Urt…
03 Jan 2011, 17:05
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Damn David! I ask for a light and you give me the sun. This may be all we need to know, not only about 5HoC but perhaps about Inhumi, the malevolent presences on Urth, maybe an Evi…
03 Jan 2011, 14:31
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That would only be true if it were impossible for abos to improve their tool-using skills with time. If Veil's hypothesis were true, abos have learned to do all sorts of complex th…
03 Jan 2011, 11:35
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The Occam's Razor principle demands that the simplest answer which accounts for all the evidence must be the correct one. Its absence (in understanding fiction) does not demand we …
03 Jan 2011, 11:05
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...oops forgot to mention in response to Gerry's question- I read 5HoC, the novella years before I read the novel. I'm almost sure the part about scaring Dr. Marsch away by accusin…
03 Jan 2011, 03:59
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Heh, that's pretty ironic. Aunt Jeannine misrepresents her name, gender and identity to Number Five. She also asserts that there is no evidence that abos could change shape and th…
03 Jan 2011, 03:34
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I gave it a preliminary shot. I think I had comparisons for five or six of the twelve labors. Some were awfully metaphorical: Hercules captures the deer with golden antlers= Severi…
02 Jan 2011, 08:01
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I think Roy makes pretty good arguments for Green not being Urth (yet, still, considering the private Wolfe correspondence, I can easily see why Marc isn't ready to drop the idea …
02 Jan 2011, 07:37
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Nor Jesus. Nope sorry.…
01 Jan 2011, 22:38
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I agree. Although...I think it might be more complex. Ultan mentions reading on the 49th floor, overlooking a bed of rosemary; while Wolfe published SotT at age 49 having wife Rose…
01 Jan 2011, 22:34
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A couple years ago on the Sun Series Book Club somebody contributed a series of Romanian covers which were all kinda good. Maybe Witz and Jane remember? I think Lake of the Long …
01 Jan 2011, 21:28
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Welcome Matthew! Six years ago I joined the List and did my best to peruse the archives first. It was really difficult then. Now I think it is just too damn big to try anything mo…
01 Jan 2011, 21:07
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I was aware of that movement but I think I can still say for certain Nessus was the center of things on Urth for all intents and purposes. Autarch Somebody closed the roads so it w…
01 Jan 2011, 12:26
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Marc, James has suggested that Spring Wind may be a disguised legend of Typhon (also Alexander). Spring Wind was conceived via his mother screwing around with the juices of a certa…
01 Jan 2011, 07:19
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Adam got the Hercules-Nessus story right. I'll drone on that I think Severian's story parallels that of Hercules more than any other legendary hero. I think the fouled waters of Gy…
01 Jan 2011, 07:13
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I think this is insightful. Still, being SF, I think Wolfe tends to take what is metaphor on Earth and turn it into reality on Urth ("fleshed from dreams", so to speak). I thin…
31 Dec 2010, 15:49
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oh, yeah, forgot to mention that Roy's mention of the jungle-covered ruins on Green really do remind me of the moss-covered ruins of Nessus that Severian sees downriver on the Sam…
31 Dec 2010, 14:17
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"Asinine" and "unimaginative asshole" are terrible things to call someone. Roy, you've received high praise for your contributions to the lupine world many times in the past and p…
31 Dec 2010, 14:12
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First, thanks to all who helped me get the main plot of SilkHorn and his eye in perspective. I am less familiar with Long/Short Sun and I admit that my 1-2 readings of them have be…
30 Dec 2010, 22:13
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Jordon, (and Witz) excellent post! You cut quite to the heart of things, imho. Please keep in mind (and I admit this often) I am playing a role here. A counter- balance role that I…
30 Dec 2010, 19:05
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Well, from my view SilkHorn only has one eye because Silk's body lost one. I mean heck, I look on the cover of IGJ and there is Silk with an eyepatch. If I understand correctly, he…
30 Dec 2010, 18:00
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That's a little confusing but...I seem to remember now..SilkHorn, at the end, looks more like Horn, shorter, stockier etc. Perhaps that's it? He is no longer in the Silk body whic…
30 Dec 2010, 17:00
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Marc, I have the utmost respect for Roy and his lupine knowledge. I call him a "skeptic" because of the more recent years of his contribution here, which is to jump in only when th…
30 Dec 2010, 16:53
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I think it is worth asking. Tzadkiel's Ship seems to travel the length of the universe to get to its end and on to the higher one. I think most would agree the Whorl doesn't do thi…
30 Dec 2010, 16:06
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That's because Hercules and Gilgamesh are stories from earth's past, before science was invented. Severian is on Urth, which is probably not even our universe. Also, Hercules and G…
30 Dec 2010, 12:53
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James, we may still disagree on Aunt Jeannine's assessment of whether abos retain their imitative abilities while in human guise, but that was a truly impressive display of knowled…
30 Dec 2010, 12:21
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Not even EVEN! In Urth's Antarctica there is still some water and land around. In BotNS Ragnarok, not only are the oceans completely frozen solid but so is Urth's atmosphere. I da…
30 Dec 2010, 12:07
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As discussed with David Stockhoff, the fish theme is not purely demonic. There is the suggestion that Jurturna and her father-husband are fallen but of the same stock as the angel…
30 Dec 2010, 09:16
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I think you are right on track Jordon. What bothers many about my view of BotNS is that it involves Severian being the product of alien/fallen angel types and humans mating. Too Cr…
30 Dec 2010, 08:59
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You are on the right track Gerry, but veer off with the idea of what is "fundamental". In SotT, Severian and Dorcas discuss the "keys to the universe". In fiction, as has been di…
30 Dec 2010, 01:34
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Yes, Gerry. Ignore the words and pay attention only to numbers. Evidence is meaningless unless quantifiable. "One surviving world" implies there was one and only one world. Just pr…
30 Dec 2010, 00:53
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Why not one of the 100+ Flood myths listed at this site: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-myths.html Gerry's question was answered at the level in which it was asked. Rui…
30 Dec 2010, 00:43
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Yes, sorry if I overstated the connection. I don't really think Shadow Children are literally the same as Inhumi. They are only thematically very similar. Once Wolfe was asked if …
29 Dec 2010, 23:31
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Seems like almost all you do is assert that various interpretations of the book must be wrong. If we follow that trajectory, all interpretations are wrong and the book is meaningle…
29 Dec 2010, 23:17
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