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That's the story of this List, isn't it? Desperate struggles to cling to a child molester in rebellion against a werewolfe.…
17 Jan 2011, 13:44
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James, like Spring Wind, Fish and Frog are surely mythic names. If Spring Wind= Typhon, who might Fish and Frog refer to? In the Long Sun story Vironese nomenclature offers a nice…
17 Jan 2011, 13:36
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This makes sense using an ideal version of natural selection. In practice, there seems to be a maintenance factor involved. Meaning that if an organism's structure is neutral in re…
17 Jan 2011, 13:21
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Not quite getting your examples. But perhaps not fair since you are dwelling into my own field of expertise. Sense of humor and musical aptitude seem to be social adaptations whic…
17 Jan 2011, 05:56
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I've been meaning to post on this for a while but I kept forgetting. I remembered what I think is a gnostic sort of reference from the very first pages of 5HoC, though I don't kn…
17 Jan 2011, 05:24
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I am interested. Some of it I've encountered before. The connection between Dionysus/Bacchus and Pan/Faunus is almost impossible to escape with the ubiquitous depictions of baccha…
17 Jan 2011, 04:35
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Well, some interesting discussion. I would agree with those who suggest the only way for the green man to work as he claims is to have super Yesod-algae which access and harness t…
17 Jan 2011, 04:07
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At the end of RttW we are supposed to believe that Horn killed Jahlee for feasting on Nettle (iirc) simply with a number of kicks. Or are we really supposed to believe that? For …
17 Jan 2011, 03:40
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Careful Jeff. YOu are going too far down my path. ;- ). Rudesind was a boy artist who meets an artist ("Fechin, Fechin, himself"). Rudesind's boy portrait includes paint brushes w…
17 Jan 2011, 03:25
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The showman gives him only water and threatens as punishment to cover the hole in the top of the tent which allows sunlight in. When Severian recovers from the daze he was in f…
16 Jan 2011, 21:46
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Hm..interesting. Self-portrait. Dorcas is artistic, as we know from her role in set design with Dr. Talos' troupe. Still, I think there might be an even better artist than her in …
16 Jan 2011, 21:09
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Since the list has taken a turn toward hard science it might be time to expose the green man for the carnival huckster he really is. There is no way for internal algae to provide t…
16 Jan 2011, 17:03
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I noticed when this was being debated six years ago it was observed that there is some confusion over whether St. Mamelta was male or female. Confusion does seem to reign here. …
16 Jan 2011, 16:44
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The discussion is of the barren nature of Severian and Valeria's marriage. His thigh wound was at the Battle of Orithya. Most of his sexual encounters were previous to this woundin…
15 Jan 2011, 02:04
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Excellent anthropological point. And so true. Oral traditions are nice, but for longevity and accuracy, they are inferior to writing systems. And writing always originated in rive…
14 Jan 2011, 20:07
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Ah, thanks for the extra info! Maimed King is related to Fisher King- Arthurian and related to the Holy Grail, (which certainly has an element of chastity and sexual purity associa…
14 Jan 2011, 18:10
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Just make sure they have some potato chips to snack on. I've heard Procter and Gamble make a very perfect version. (apologies for lack of subject, btw)…
14 Jan 2011, 15:39
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Some really great research David. I do think the aspect of Conciliator in this story has been somewhat ignored. My own view is that myth, religion and legend find a number of conc…
14 Jan 2011, 03:23
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Well, when Severian was pre-pubescent they did meet in the Witches Tower. She answers the door and guides him to the Cumaean. But it seems implied in CotC that the Stone Town rooft…
13 Jan 2011, 14:50
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Yes, Gerry, I know that's how you feel. Trust your feelings. The farce is with you. :- )…
12 Jan 2011, 19:31
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My vote is: Definitely not. The essence of Urth is to be some form of Earth and the red stuff just doesn't convey the proper comparison/contrast in my view. Let's view the redness…
12 Jan 2011, 18:39
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OMG now, I'm starting to worry about the real effect on my mind of... PRINGLES!!!!!!!!!!! ;- )…
12 Jan 2011, 18:36
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oops, sorry. I had thought you were talking about events at the end of UotNS. Never mind. :- (…
12 Jan 2011, 18:31
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Why does Wolfe make it that way? Nothing he writes is by accident. Hiding it could be a way of saying, "it isn't there anymore..." ;- )…
12 Jan 2011, 18:29
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Not much to argue with there, 'cept maybe that the artificially (plus the nature of a black hole) is what keeps Urth's sun from being a red giant. Pink sun...pink sun..that sounds…
12 Jan 2011, 18:26
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We take it for granted and ignore that a terrarium relies on the presence of earth's massive gravity field which allows a thick atmospheric blanket to surround the terrarium. Atmos…
12 Jan 2011, 18:22
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Marc Aramini: > > The chapter title here is old lands and new, but the I considered posting a response under the subject: under the subject: Spiritual and Ecological Succession.…
12 Jan 2011, 18:09
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True but from my perspective there have always been similar massive problems. I've always felt it would be impossible to sustain a world with rain forest jungles and pampas and her…
12 Jan 2011, 17:45
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I don't understand this question. The Sun shines about as brightly on the Moon as on Earth. The main reason our Moon doesn't have plants is that it doesn't have an atmosphere. An a…
12 Jan 2011, 17:12
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This is an interesting idea that I hadn't heard before (from others). Do the hints about Severian you mention have to do with Merryn? Other things?…
12 Jan 2011, 13:21
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Sure. Let's remember that explanation for seeing the Red Sun from Blue was Antonio's. I only brought up Borges' Babel Library as a contribution to discussion of that theme. Adam T…
12 Jan 2011, 13:15
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Given Rudesind's words, this seems like the best interpretation of the text to me, with the fewest reader additions. Not if the astronaut picture was from our/earth's cycle. Whi…
12 Jan 2011, 13:04
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It may be that this fantasy was concocted from the idea that Typhon's astronomers, were so wrong in predicting the rate of decrease in the sun's output. Also contributing might b…
12 Jan 2011, 04:38
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Should have said Borges' Library of Babel. WOrth a read. Was probably an influence on BotNS cosmology. http://jubal.westnet.com/hyperdiscordia/library_of_babel.html…
12 Jan 2011, 04:19
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Yes. Thanks. But no thanks.…
12 Jan 2011, 02:36
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Yes, I would agree. I was only trying to answer that question with regard to Antonio's statement. (fwiw, Borges' Library also fits the bill). I would say that those of us who are …
12 Jan 2011, 02:33
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That sounds familiar Jane, thanks for reminding. Perhaps I should have said "no apparent civilization during Severian's (normal lifetime) era." I would guess the black hole in th…
12 Jan 2011, 01:58
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Ah, where is James Wynn? He'd might like this idea, at least metaphorically. His theory regarding the sameness of Spring Wind and Typhon involves Fish/Frog twin analogs of Romulu…
12 Jan 2011, 01:48
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Unless you understand the reason Sol went red before its time. It's because you are missing the spiritual side of the cycle.…
12 Jan 2011, 01:40
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I'd say we see something sort of similar when Severian is about to enter Yesod. Because of the curvature of space-time (as Malrubius explained) he sees both the beginning and the …
12 Jan 2011, 01:34
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Yes, this is certainly along the lines of my own thoughts on the matter. But, I still get a sense that this is more than just a symbolic, thematic similarity. There are ruins on Gr…
11 Jan 2011, 22:33
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Seems to be so. It would take a lot of space-time contortions to make the theory work. So, is that it? Is that all there is to it? An academic proof of incorrectness? For me there…
11 Jan 2011, 21:30
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Damn! I think this is an excellent point! I think postulations of domes and greenhouses are just post-hoc argument fabrications against your theory Marc. In 30 years of picturing…
11 Jan 2011, 20:59
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Such a perv! Adam you've been hanging around with Master Gurloes too much ;- ). But seriously, I definitely think the Whorl is oblong shaped; perhaps with phallic imagery intended.…
11 Jan 2011, 20:28
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Feeling at a loss of plain textual (plowman's) explanation of why Urth was flooded to Ushas I've long thought the Bible was the place to find the answer- that being that here on Ea…
11 Jan 2011, 20:22
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For me, the Apheta face is a poetic/psychogical image and/or a peekhole for an observer. Yesod being a higher universe than Briah, any portal from it would appear luminous as energ…
11 Jan 2011, 19:48
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Actually, in my previous incarnations on this List, I used the traditional format to post, though it always seemed a confusing and unnecessarily cluttered. My current style is des…
11 Jan 2011, 18:11
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Don't worry, you don't need to sell me on this idea. I think there are neglible coincidences in Wolfe's work. The mystery to me is how a thoughtful reader could dismiss connection …
11 Jan 2011, 16:58
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Okay, I think I understand your quandrary. You presented a very specific explanatory theory to Gene Wolfe involving a physical sameness of planets and you felt he affirmed it but w…
11 Jan 2011, 13:45
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I keep thinking about the Urth is Green theory. Was that the direct Wolfe quote, "No, no, Green is Urth"? I still kinda like Duko Rigoglio's wor…
11 Jan 2011, 03:00
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