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--- On Fri, 4/5/13, Michael Thayer <michael.o.thayer at gmail.com> wrote: From: Michael Thayer <michael.o.thayer at gmail.com> Subject: Re: (urth) Thecla's "Identity" To: urth at…
05 Apr 2013, 14:03
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What's funnier about it to me are almost 200 page books devoted to "Naming Beckett's Unnameable" and examinations of all these philosophical principles and articles about "meaning …
05 Apr 2013, 13:42
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05 Apr 2013, 03:20
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--- On Thu, 4/4/13, Michael Thayer <michael.o.thayer at gmail.com> wrote: From: Michael Thayer <michael.o.thayer at gmail.com> Subject: Re: (urth) Thecla's "Identity" To: urth at…
05 Apr 2013, 00:17
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There are certain buzz words Thecla uses that indicates her deeper association with Vodalus, like pelagic depths. I think she mentions an argosy but my memory is not as solid on …
04 Apr 2013, 12:39
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That is, can't unsee them. (Trees doing weird stuff like getting jealous and engendering life). Still not used to this fancy phone and its auto correct. Sorry for all the typos.…
03 Apr 2013, 23:57
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Of course with trees grabbing for the falling VRT with their roots and trees traveling around in the third novella " trees that have travel", I don't see why it isn't a dendritic c…
03 Apr 2013, 23:55
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Of course it is. Lots of ways. So my book end summation is a mature maggot sits in jail and pretends to be a man replaced by a half tree aborigine. Sounds like cliffs at its fin…
03 Apr 2013, 23:10
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Also of note is that Port Mimizon is in the departement de la main, or the hand or principal. It is between a thumb and finger, if I recall. Interesting that a text that hinges so …
03 Apr 2013, 15:11
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In an interview, Marsch claims that aboriginal culture is not paleolithic (first stone tools appearing) but rather the preceding stage, dendritic, or even predendritic. Well, ther…
03 Apr 2013, 15:02
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When Marsch first shows up in the first novella his skin is described as so pasty white as to almost be a deformity - definitely like those white larva. Also, he makes a big deal …
03 Apr 2013, 04:30
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And of course microscopic infection explains the "prophylactic" removal of saliva as our officer in the third novella cleans up.…
02 Apr 2013, 23:38
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I do view eastwind as a metaphor, however. Not sure how closely these two species are biologically, but I see eastwind as a symbol of airborne propagation even though he is not a …
02 Apr 2013, 15:13
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I am pretty adamant about Eastwind surviving but not knowing who he is. That is the key point. Also, metaphorically his lack of testes but still being called an ancestor of Trenc…
02 Apr 2013, 15:05
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And Sandwalker dreams of drowning and twelve walker says eastwind met the French landers Sent from my iPhone…
02 Apr 2013, 14:41
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I explained all my reasons that Sandwalker is the one that dies already. Eastwind got bit and the survivors arm hurts also eastwind says earlier you will die before me but live in…
02 Apr 2013, 14:37
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John vector Marsch Sent from my iPhone…
02 Apr 2013, 14:04
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Last post for a while - then at that point the shadow child says even he doesn't know who is who at the culmination of a story. Sent from my iPhone…
02 Apr 2013, 14:04
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As I noted from the foot imagery it is the brother Sandwalker who dies in a story and eastwind who lives, thinking he is Sandwalker. The airborne one survives. The aborigine drown…
02 Apr 2013, 14:00
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In regards to the quote on page 138 that Gerry and I looked at, in which the first species uses their hands only for food and the second is space faring, (no mention of hands) I no…
02 Apr 2013, 13:48
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And then there are little comments like, don't ask me how big children are. I wonder if anybody except gene has ever really "gotten" this work for sure. So tricksy. His symbolism…
02 Apr 2013, 13:41
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And the tiny things that swim in the blood that switch the perspectives of Sandwalker and eastwind further point to this. I still think the adult form is a transformed larva, th…
02 Apr 2013, 13:08
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And them riding the marsh men through the eyes finally makes sense of that connection - the shadow child takes the Marsch man. Sent from my iPhone…
02 Apr 2013, 13:02
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And the manner in which the shadow children "ride" the marsh men by attacking and holding their eyes and the doubled pupil of the thing Marsch shoots and the pits being the eye and…
02 Apr 2013, 13:01
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I also think it interesting that sol in the fighting lizard is a different constellation than the shadow children in the sky. Perhaps their space faring nature is mental - they sa…
01 Apr 2013, 23:51
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Well, there is the hand of port mimizon, the eye and other eye on st. Anne, and the odd scene when seven girls waiting picks a blue fruit off a tree and it is called st. Croix, but…
01 Apr 2013, 23:47
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I know it's my fault, but I think the scales fell from my eyes after all those posts. Jailed marsch is not a man imitated by a tree crossed aboriginal, but a transmogrified larv…
01 Apr 2013, 22:32
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I know this has been put on the list before but this is a comment Gene made in an interview. My comments below. LP: "'A Story,' by John V. Marsch." GW: "'A Story,' by John V. Ma…
01 Apr 2013, 15:10
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I guess I am now very interested in the life cycles of the various creatures on st. Anne. I find it no coincidence that one of the streets on st. Croix is named after maggots. VR…
01 Apr 2013, 13:55
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Interesting. Even if it wasn't an inspiration still an interesting bit of history to know. Sent from my iPhone…
01 Apr 2013, 02:23
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I become increasingly certain that most mysteries in Wolfe are engineering or mechanistic in their set up. If that relaxation principle is at all written into the text, the somewh…
30 Mar 2013, 17:04
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Can the object of a preposition be replaced by a pronoun? Sure. I think Wolfe intentionally uses ambiguous pronouns that way a lot. Sent from my iPhone…
30 Mar 2013, 15:40
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The them pronoun is ambiguous in reference to the songs of the second people. In any case, the second people are changed by the first, who do use their hands to take. No referenc…
30 Mar 2013, 15:29
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Once there was a people using their hands (first) ... Only to take. There came another (second) who crossed from star to star. Then it was found that the first ... Sent them (the…
30 Mar 2013, 15:26
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Also, Gerry, I wanted to reiterate these are the kinds of discussions I envisioned when I started the short story project. Thank you for your input, and Tony, too. The difference…
30 Mar 2013, 14:57
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And the copy of a copy resonates pretty well with number five being a copy of a copy. Also, the talk of engineering relaxation at the end of the first story- solving by repeated …
30 Mar 2013, 14:53
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But the star faring species in this passage did not use their hands. I think this is the ancient occurrence of interacting with humanity confused by a later interaction on another…
30 Mar 2013, 14:49
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Sorry, I will slow down now that I have finally wrapped my head around some of the weirder quotes. I think the pertinent feature is on page 138 of A story where the old wise one t…
30 Mar 2013, 13:32
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Now I think there is some "Peritonitis" type imagery going on with the perceptions of the shadow children - they have abandoned their normal ambitions to be the "god" and environme…
30 Mar 2013, 13:13
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Also, the shadow children vomit their "wives" when they are "white" - the maggots that grow from the pink egg seeds in the leaves ( compare with the street of maggots in fifth hea…
30 Mar 2013, 13:07
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Also, there is one more bit of planting imagery in the pit at the end. Cedar branches waving says that there was a time when Sandwalker did not sleep near her and she would get up…
30 Mar 2013, 12:58
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There is a whole conversation about shapechangers and sandwalker's people near the tale end of A Story, page127 in my copy, where the old wise one remembers the names of Atlantis a…
30 Mar 2013, 12:44
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One more thing - after Sandwalker digs up the honey and the the hive to feed Seven girls waiting, her belly is described as round like a melon, and he says dont lean on him too muc…
30 Mar 2013, 12:33
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This is kind of the stuff I was hoping for, thanks, Tony. Because of the "fruit of the knowledge of good and evil" connotations of those seeds ("then he is like God"), I don't vie…
30 Mar 2013, 12:26
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Also don't forget the little quote in a story that says children are engendered by the trees of Sandwalker's home but not the orange tree he sees at the source of the stream " he s…
30 Mar 2013, 02:51
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Really quickly, two refracted images I wanted to explore- when Flying Feet is drowned in Sandwalker's dream: he says he would pretend to be still and then arise, but Eastwind defea…
29 Mar 2013, 18:10
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Well, the Dollo's law reference is just saying that humans could theoretically evolve to become like abos, (lose the ability to work with their hands) and then have to find another…
29 Mar 2013, 16:27
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I apologize, I can't spell this morning. Sea, fabric. I suppose I fancy the idea that the Shadow Children and Hill men are different because of a convergence of evolution rather th…
29 Mar 2013, 15:45
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or conversely, I suppose, are there no more humans on St. Anne, though it seems clear Trenchard can make tools (I still don't understand that whole aboriginal tool replica stuff, b…
29 Mar 2013, 15:39
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--- On Fri, 3/29/13, Gerry Quinn <gerry at bindweed.com> wrote: From: Marc Aramini Yes. Yes. Even before that, with three Shadow Children left, the OWO becomes confused beca…
29 Mar 2013, 15:35
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