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People seem to be too hung up on the poor horses. That wasn't my point. Let's forget the horses and take another example of Able's unconscionable behavior, one that Wolfe spent far…
24 Nov 2005, 08:05
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Ah, but that flies in the face of the very basis of the concept of "trial by combat" in all its variations. From Lancelot's defense of Guinevere to all those childish, petulant, in…
23 Nov 2005, 08:04
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Though I come from the opposite end of the religious spectrum, I quite agree with you, at least about that last statement. Something akin to grace is the only way to account for th…
27 Oct 2005, 07:20
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Andrew wrote: [snip] It occurs to me that, *if* Jahlee was imprinted with Chenille's spirit (due to her mother having fed on Chenille on Green), and if Jahlee went to Blue to feed…
22 Aug 2005, 09:09
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Oh, I was referring to your speculations about "Why would going to Blue to prey on humans meet a need to become more human-like?" And Jahlee's "day-dreams of returning to the towe…
18 Aug 2005, 20:58
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An objection I have is her presumed imprinting with Chenille's spirit. I don't think her mother(?) fed on Chenille on the _Whorl_. [snip] Jahlee expressed similar sentiments on h…
17 Aug 2005, 23:36
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But it's just a dream and can't be taken at face value. Silkhorn also saw Sinew wearing a ring in that dream that I don't think had really been there. Silkhorn's subconscious is at…
17 Aug 2005, 22:13
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His No, I think I jumped to an unwarranted conclusion. Horn's lander(s) left the _Whorl_ just days after Auk's. If Andrew is anywhere near right about a conjunction in or about Bl…
17 Aug 2005, 22:12
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[snip] Well, well, we three seem to be in agreement that Jahlee didn't get to Blue unaided when she was very young. Do you also agree, Andrew, that she traveled by lander between …
16 Aug 2005, 22:46
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I still think the answer is that she traveled on a lander. But, on reflection, that 2-3 year window of opportunity has to be even smaller. If Jahlee was in fact imprinted with the …
15 Aug 2005, 23:28
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Thalassocrat wrote: [snip] Is it just coincidence that Q's attainment of office more or less coincided with the death of Pas? I doubt it. I'm not implying cause and effect, just n…
13 Aug 2005, 23:43
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No, James. No. Two rooms are involved. The hall (also called the foyer by Marble), which contained a landscape by Murtagon, the "gorgeous room full of lounging soldiers". And the d…
13 Aug 2005, 10:17
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Okay, you're right about the point of first contact between Neighbors and humans having occurred shortly before the _Whorl_ reached orbit. And I do believe that that *was* the firs…
12 Aug 2005, 23:46
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No, it isn't different in any edition. There are two rooms in question here, the one "full of lounging soldiers and armored men" and the room where the meeting was held and Blood d…
12 Aug 2005, 13:02
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Yes, the Neighbors took inhumi to the _Whorl_. But I don't think they studied humans for a "long time". Just for the time (beginning thirty-something years before the exodus?) the …
11 Aug 2005, 23:29
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Thalassocrat wrote: [snip] I don't know if the Neighbors were involved or not, but I have been inexcusably forgetful -- I had just read the passage the other day! Of course Jahlee…
11 Aug 2005, 14:39
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Maybe. But I have the feeling I'm missing something. Silkhorn even asked her, in so many words, if her first visit to that room had been made before her first trip to Blue. "She di…
10 Aug 2005, 23:33
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Maybe it's because you're reading it piecemeal on amazon; I don't know. But I'm reading the text from the book. You have the sequence of events a little out of order. The two piece…
04 Aug 2005, 22:37
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Ah, David, I see that you have preceded me. My apologies. Crush quoted: There is another line of text immediately following the word "before" in the above quote that starts a new…
04 Aug 2005, 11:45
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Before -- or if -- I respond further, and I probably shouldn't do this because I don't believe your interpretation in the least, I will point out that you have put a needless obsta…
03 Aug 2005, 22:04
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He had sex alright; he bragged to Horn about it while on the roof of the airship: ************************************* "I won't ask if you've lain with a woman, Horn; it's too per…
03 Aug 2005, 12:17
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What continuous action? He also described himself and Hide and Oreb in the present tense a few pages earlier. And Oreb still looked just like a night chough, "smaller than a hen", …
02 Aug 2005, 22:31
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I'm not following you. Mint's hair was cut short, like a nun's, to deliberately look unattractive to men. Hy was doing the opposite. The exact quote from Kypris is: "I was there la…
02 Aug 2005, 13:05
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Is there another term for boiled leather that can be linked to a named character? I don't know; I'm asking. Both have dark eyes and Sev has dark hair, but Sev has very pale skin, …
31 Jul 2005, 21:00
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Re. the confabulation of Kypris, Hyacinth, Mamelta and the woman in Silk's death vision who was his biological mother: While it's true that Kypris said that Hy looked much like sh…
28 Jul 2005, 12:31
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I passed along the recent queries about LEXICON URTHUS to the author. Here is what he had to say: *************************************************** *****************************…
22 Jul 2005, 10:44
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I hadn't read the story before, but now that I have I agree that the correspondence with TWK is striking. Still, I don't believe the works are related; that is, I don't believe the…
20 Jul 2005, 21:52
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I hope my comments weren't misconstrued. I was expressing chagrin over the theory, which I later recanted. See here: http://www.urth.net/urth/archives/v0207/1485.txt.shtml -Roy…
01 Jul 2005, 11:30
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That's been brought up here before. By me, I'm afraid, a long time ago. But at least it didn't involve clones. <g> -Roy…
30 Jun 2005, 21:23
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This is old hat, but the first sentence of the book lets you know Weer is dead. That is, you know he's dead if you remember Mrs. Porter's hobby and that her maiden name was Bold. T…
29 Jun 2005, 22:30
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No, it wasn't a defense; I don't need one. I was demonstrating your propensity for reading things into the written word that simply aren't there. I in no way misrepresented the tex…
29 Jun 2005, 00:33
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Hardly. Silkhorn did not deny that "Pas intended to rule Blue in person", as you claimed. That statement says no such thing, exactly or otherwise. The statement purports to expres…
25 Jun 2005, 21:05
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I'm not sure what the point of that last statement was, but that's not quite what is said. I'm not going to quote it all; readers can read it for themselves, pages 361-362. In shor…
24 Jun 2005, 23:30
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I've pointed this out before, though it keeps being ignored -- perhaps because it plays hell with all sorts of beloved theories, but the textual fact of the matter is that Typhon's…
24 Jun 2005, 13:10
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Pas in Oreb? I don't think so. That was Scylla. (RTTW, 348) -Roy…
24 Jun 2005, 13:06
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Dear Mr. Millman, Thank you for saving me the trouble. I only wish more people read so carefully. -Roy…
23 Jun 2005, 23:30
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I think you must have meant "carry Typhon's very face back to _Urth_". In any event, I never claimed that Silk was a clone of Typhon, as the previously referenced post and others f…
23 Jun 2005, 00:57
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Logically, there is no reason not to. In fact, they did make a new eidolon again when Sev died back in Apu's era. Venant's death was also logically meaningless; if the Hierogrammat…
09 Apr 2005, 23:52
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Yes, that is the implication, and Wolfe obviously intended it be read that way. I was aware of Apheta's statement of probability. But Tzadkiel (who outranks her [g] ), is unequivoc…
08 Apr 2005, 13:12
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It's true that the H's were shaped by man; it's also true that the H's were doing unto man what had been done unto them. Man usurped the prerogative of the Increate, a great wrong,…
06 Apr 2005, 13:12
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Now imagine that we have more than 20/20 hindsight, because we operate on a different plane of existance than the creatures that we are gradually manipulating.<< ------------------…
05 Apr 2005, 23:22
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You're right. I realized that after I posted. I guess I have a problem with the basic concept of things existing before they are even created; but that's just me, I suppose. Still,…
01 Apr 2005, 00:10
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It's not that clear cut. In URTH Sev says that "in a previous manvantara" the Hieros shaped the Hierogrammates. (137) But in the chapter "The Key to the Universe" in CITADEL (too m…
31 Mar 2005, 12:37
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Agreed. Maybe Wolfe placed the Sun cycle in a previous universe in an attempt to dodge the problem presented by the Incarnation that I mentioned. But both Newton and Einstein woul…
31 Mar 2005, 00:11
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Perhaps not; but my point in the above excerpt was to maintain that, from one end of the Judeo-Christian spectrum to the other, from the Old Testament to the New, the world we live…
31 Mar 2005, 00:10
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As I've said earlier, the destruction of Urth was largely a symbolic punishment; symbolic because Urth was man's ancestral birthplace, and mankind was dispersed too far and wide in…
28 Mar 2005, 21:32
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As with much else in Wolfe, it is largely inferred. The quote about "The death agonies of the world you know will be offered to the Increate" implies that the Hierogrammates have, …
26 Mar 2005, 00:11
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You're really reaching now. You know perfectly well that Typhon established his Second Empire before he even came to Urth; that the _Whorl_ was built and stocked _after_ he came to…
25 Mar 2005, 01:05
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Crush, arguing with Tony: You forget that Typhon "once ruled this planet, and many more." (SWORD, p.-188) The survival of humanity does not depend on what happens on Urth, as I'v…
23 Mar 2005, 23:07
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What can I say? I stand by my original statement. Stone Ox gave you the pertinent quote. It comes from page 384 of EXODUS FROM THE LONG SUN, Tor, Hardback, First Edition: November …
22 Feb 2005, 22:09
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