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The Urth list — 2 messages, 2 voices, 17 May 2001
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Dan'l Danehy-Oakes17 May 2001, 15:54original
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Mantis wrote: Jane Doe as Lilith is a very strong thread, agreed.
Don't like it, but have to agree. (Side note -- Lilith is often identified with the Greek snake-women, lamiae, which adds flavor to this.)
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Okay. So the NP beams a copperhead and Jane Doe rises up.
Right.
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Realistically it doesn't make any sense
Realistically, none of this makes sense...
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Meanwhile, there is the repeated trouble in Spokane. That and the question of "how long to the next election," these are the points that sound like "National Crisis" to me.
I can't help thinking you're seeing what you want to see there -- indications of crisis are ambiguous at best; I suspect that, if there's a crisis going on, it's only a crisis for the NP, not for the whole country. I certainly think you're reading-into the conversation with the security guy.
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And Roy wrote: Do we get a replay of the Eden story, the same way we got a Second Flood in the Urth Cycle? Does that make sense, from a Christian point of view?
I think a good analogy here is to the Narnia books -- it isn't a "replay," but, if God made multiple worlds, how things might play themselves out, differently but according to the old patterns, in those worlds. Like those, I don't think Wolfe writes to be taken allegorically, but perhaps symbolically.
Michael Straight18 May 2001, 08:26original

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On Thu, 17 May 2001, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote: Do we get a replay of the Eden story, the same way we got a Second Flood in the Urth Cycle? Does that make sense, from a Christian point of view?
I think a good analogy here is to the Narnia books -- it isn't a "replay," but, if God made multiple worlds, how things might play themselves out, differently but according to the old patterns, in those worlds. Like those, I don't think Wolfe writes to be taken allegorically, but perhaps symbolically.
Better yet, Lewis's Perelandra, in which a human from Earth becomes the agent of evil attempting to orchestrate a second fall on the Edenic Venus. I like the idea that, disasterous as Lilith is running amok in our world, the NP, a fallen human, would be a worse threat to unfallen Eden. (But it only works if Lilith is not talking about Cain and Abel after all.) -Rostrum

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