Shaving Clones
James Wynn · 25 Jun 2005, 11:44
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From: thewynns at earthlink.net (James Wynn) Date: Sat Jun 25 11:44:56 2005 Subject: (urth) Shaving Clones Message-ID: <3568156.1119725093413.JavaMail.root at wamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net> >>>Chris said: >>>I devised the following theory: >>>everyone on Urth is genetically Severian, including Typhon. >>Crush said: >>Ha ha! Dan'l already devised that retort the day I first declared >>that the explanation for Wolfe's answer was that Tussah was >>a clone of Typhon (although he may not remember it). Chris said: >Not a retort, this post was meant to lighten up where I felt I was getting >too serious....I don't think you deserve a glib or dismissive answer to your >actual argument, which is why I posted this separately. I'll continue separately >and on a more serious note tomorrow. Thank you, Chris. An infinite number of Severians would certainly explain why one they would need to wear masks. And you are right, if Severian is a clone then his "grandmother" relation is formal rather than genetic, and there is still the fact that his crypt is Typhon's family mausoleum. But I should say that while you did not consider the post as a retort or intend it as dismissive, I consider "multiplying clones to absurdity" to be the most difficult response to deal with, because.... It is not self-evident that Tussah is a clone of Typhon, and many (possibly most) readers find nothing askance in Tussah's "son not of my body" declaration. So, naturally, the most reasonable assumption for those is that a rather incestuous "clone theory" (there's Severian and his grandmother again) is a cop-out...that I devised a curly-whorly yarn out of Himalayan thin air rather than carefully examine the text of the books for Wolfe's true intent. The opposite is true, but if one sees nothing wrong with Tussah's "son" declaration, then he is never going to abandon the "spiritual son of Tussah" reading regardless of how cozily I can show that an alternate reading fits the story and that the "obvious" reading does not. I hope I took it like a man and laughed about it in the sense that I assumed it was intended. (If you don't like people taking pot-shots at the moon, don't drop your pants.) But of all jokes, that one stings the most. ~ Crush
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