Who's in Oreb
Chris · 26 Jun 2005, 13:51
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From: rasputin_ at hotmail.com (Chris) Date: Sun Jun 26 13:51:09 2005 Subject: (urth) Who's in Oreb In-Reply-To: <1f76173705062512447320af11 at mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <BAY102-F156015ACE7A1593647A2F486EF0 at phx.gbl> To take an opportunity to return to my own speculation from earlier, this whole exchange reinforces my original conviction that the Rajan at that point had access to, or had currently assimilated, some elements of Pas - this can be the only real source of his confidence in asserting he could have told her differently. And again this points to the possibility that he knew full well who Severian was. As far the dispute that's going on here, while Dan'l is correct about the strict semantic content of the exchange, I think he's incorrect in assuming that Scylla would know her father better. She was a *child*, and realistically how long was it before you really understood your own parents? I have to admit for my own part that I am still discovering things I never understood about my father until I reached adulthood. And Scylla's exposure to her father was likely to be quite minimal due to his position, as well - not to mention her personal resentment is going to interfere. In any event I thought we were generally agreed that Typhon did not associate personal identity with electrical impulses capable of uploading, so the presence of Pas on the Whorl, embodied or not, would never have served to satisfy any desire to personally lord it over the colony because Typhon would not have considered Pas to be Typhon. So the Rajan seems to be on fairly solid ground here. >On 6/25/05, James Wynn <thewynns at earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > You are wrong; self-evidently so. That is exactly what the text said. > > Why are you quibbling about it? The point of that statement was that the > > Rajan, who arguably knows as much or more about Pas than anyone, > >More than _Scylla_, James? > >_Really_? > >Yeah. right... > >--Dan'l > >-- >I do not fear Satan half so much as I fear those who fear him. > -- St Teresa of Avila >http://www.livejournal.com/users/sturgeonslawyer >_______________________________________________ >Urth Mailing List >To post, write urth at urth.net >Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net
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