Travelin' Jahlee
thalassocrat at nym.hush.com · 14 Aug 2005, 23:25
· from 2005-August.txt.gz
This is the message as the crawl holds it, before anything
here touched it. What the conversation shows has been through ingest: transfer
encodings decoded, attachments dropped, quote markers repaired, and the
archiver’s ? resolved into quotation marks and dashes. Those
repairs are judgements and some of them are wrong, which is what this page is
for. Email addresses are obscured here as they are everywhere else on the site,
so it is before our repairs rather than byte for byte.
From: thalassocrat at nym.hush.com (thalassocrat at nym.hush.com) Date: Sun Aug 14 23:25:59 2005 Subject: (urth) Travelin' Jahlee Message-ID: <200508150625.j7F6PueL060515 at mailserver2.hushmail.com> On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 20:45:04 -0700 James Wynn <thewynns at earthlink.net> wrote: >I missed this start of this interesting thread, so I'll just stick >my toe in >as I see an opening. > >>When he comes back to life, he orders everybody out almost >>immediately. I don't think he was alive whe the Whorl entered >>orbit. I think if he had been, he would have started chucking >>people out right away. Most likely, his family killed him as the >>Whorl approached the Short Sun system, to stop him from doing >this. > >*Pas* didn't do it "immediately". Silk and Auk did. It seems it >took awhile >for before Pas went to extremes to drive people out. And then it >was because >the Whorl was clearly suffering from an overpopulation of Cargo >(running out >of water and such). Anyway if the prep work had already been done, >it was >necessary to re-do it after Pas' resurrection. It would be >understandable >that Pas' family waited for the last possible moment to rub him >out rather >than as soon as they entered orbit. It was surely Pas doing the shoving, from the start. Tartaros reveals to Auk that unless they get at least one lander away, Pas is going to start kicking butt. I'm not sure that it makes more sense for Echidna et al to wait until "the last minute" before offing Pas. In other posts in this thread, I've given reasons why I think it makes sense to assume that it happened before. Taking that one step further, maybe the Whorl has just entered orbit as LS begins. It could explain why the renewed theomachy begins at just this point; Pas has bided his time waiting for the moment when his Plan can go into effect. Maybe something like this: About 45-50 years out from the SS system, Pas commences some kind of early insertion manouevre (perhaps starting to decelerate). Until then, he hasn't given his family any specifics on the destination; now they realize the journey is coming to an end, and begin to plot. After 15 or so years, they are ready to pounce. They best Pas, but before he succumbs he cuts the main control cable, so they won't be able to divert the Whorl - whatever he has done before this is enough for a successful insertion. Thinking Pas truly dead, Echidna et al don't really mind the Whorl heading for orbit; they just want everybody to stay on it & continue to worship them. Neighbors notice the approach of the Whorl at the beginning of its insertion manouevres. Somehow or other they board it & do their inhumi thing. (The rough coincidence in the timing of Pas' death and Quetzal's elevation is explained by the timing of the insertion manouevre, the various parties' responses to it, and the time for Pas' brood to perfect their plot & Quetzal to work his way up the hierarchy.) In the not-very-plausible event that the Whorl's landers can travel between it and Green while it's traveling at relativistic speeds, perhaps the Neighbors enter the Whorl in astral form and induce humans to go in landers, returning human-charged inhumi to the Whorl. They use their Neighborish mojo to hide this activity from Pas and crew. In the scenario in which they have their own FTL spacecraft, which can plausibly renedezvous & dock with the decelerating Whorl, they use this same mojo to hide their own comings & goings with primitive & sentient inhumi.
An unofficial mirror of a public mailing list · about & removal requests · download the archive · before the list · original archive at urth.net