Hera and Sphinx / achilles

Chris · 02 Apr 2006, 13:21 · from 2006-April.txt.gz

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From: rasputin_ at hotmail.com (Chris)
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 13:21:39 +0000
Subject: (urth) Hera and Sphinx / achilles
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Another possibility is the fact that wrestling is sport, not war, and thus 
perhaps only secondarily in the realm of Ares - the techniques necessary to 
win a wrestling match are not entirely the same as the ones you would need 
to kill or incapacitate an opponent in battle.

As far as the lineage comments go, I don't see how Hera's statements 
establish anything. She is, in a sense, everyone's mother - and thus, as she 
says, everyone's mother's mother as well.

>Jeff wrote:
> >
> > It seems inappropriate for Hercules to tutor Ares either on wrestling or
> > on the wisdom of throwing a wrestling match.
> >
> > --
> > Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com
> > < http://www.io.com/~jwilson >
> >
>
>Yet this doesn't explain why Latro is explicitly called Pleistorus on two 
>separate occasions, whereas Basias, who bested him, is never identified as 
>a god, despite the fact that he wins the match.
>
>Why would Hercules help a mortal, anyway? Why would Odysseus help him take 
>out three people?  Once he hears the advice of Hercules, he is able to 
>implement it.  If Hercules gave someone who wasn't born to be a warrior 
>advice, they would still lose the match, no matter how good the advice was. 
>  You can tell someone how Mike Tyson fights, but it isn't easy to hear 
>someone else and to just go out there and do it.
>
>Your first argument, about the conventions of naming  someone as a child of 
>the gods, is cogent.  I don't feel that this one, about it being 
>inappropriate for Hercules to tutor a brain damaged Ares, effectively 
>weighs one way or the other about the possibility of Latro being, in some 
>way, divine.
>
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