Quotable Wolfe
Bob Miller · 20 May 2006, 10:30
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From: bob_bageera at hotmail.com (Bob Miller) Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 05:30:03 -0500 Subject: (urth) Quotable Wolfe In-Reply-To: <f5238c30605192027m1907c269w15615a025ebe796b at mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <BAY103-F19E4EFEB61B443FC82426688A40 at phx.gbl> Did I miss it? The one, and rare, to me is that scene in BOTNS where Severian found the bush of "Claws". "...and I cast away my boots that I might not walk shod on sacred ground" the "things" that stick to my memory of Wolfe's are those that have had a buildup. The scene in THE WIZARD where Idnn tells Sirable that the wives of the Angrborn are her subjects and so she Will take care of them. And then I wished I were not mounted, that I might kneel to her. Thank you all for forcing me to codify my thoughts on this. Bob From: "maru dubshinki" <marudubshinki at gmail.com> Reply-To: The Urth Mailing List <urth at lists.urth.net> To: "The Urth Mailing List" <urth at lists.urth.net> Subject: Re: (urth) Quotable Wolfe Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 23:27:49 -0400 On 5/19/06, Kieran Mullen <kieran at ou.edu> wrote: > > One thing I love about Wolfe is his prose. His choice of words, > their cadence, their compact power. OTOH, I can't think of many quotes > off the top of my head. I am not sure Wolfe *is* quotable. It's more > the tapestry than the thread. > > Do people have: > > Favorite Severian quotes? > > Favorite Wolfe quotes? > > I do have some favorite quotes, but they're from short stories. I'll > have to get my copy of "Endangered Species" instead of trying to cobble > them from memory. > > Kieran Well, I always was struck by one quote from Shadow of the Torturer: as a matter of fact, I first came to Wolfe when I was a kid, and I was casually browsing the first chapters of this odd looking book, and I read this: "We believe that we invent symbols. The truth is that they invent us; we are their creatures, shaped by their hard, defining edges. When soldiers take their oath they are given a coin, an asimi stamped with the profile of the Autarch. Their acceptance of that coin is their acceptance of the special duties and burdens of military life--they are soldiers from that moment, though they may know nothing of the management of arms. I did not know that then, but it is a profound mistake to believe that we must know of such things to be influenced by them, and in fact to believe so is to believe in the most debased and superstitious kind of magic. The would-be sorcerer alone has faith in the efficacy of pure knowledge; rational people know that things act of themselves or not at all." The Shadow of the Torturer, Gene Wolfe. (Thanks to Lupine Nuncio (http://mysite.verizon.net/~vze2tmhh/wolfeblog.html) for providing a transcription!) ~maru _______________________________________________ Urth Mailing List To post, write urth at urth.net Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
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