Father Inire and SF loathing

Bob Miller · 14 Jun 2006, 10:12 · from 2006-June.txt.gz

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From: bob_bageera at hotmail.com (Bob Miller)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 05:12:52 -0500
Subject: (urth) Father Inire and SF loathing
In-Reply-To: <200606131748.37725.ddjones at riddlemaster.org>
Message-ID: <BAY103-F35E78F7AD68823030C2C52888D0 at phx.gbl>

There are, unfortunately, many people out there who refuse to see.  This is 
the reason why the injunction was, "...don't worry about that splinter in 
your neighbor's eye, worry about the log in your own."

From: Daniel D Jones <ddjones at riddlemaster.org>
Reply-To: The Urth Mailing List <urth at lists.urth.net>
To: The Urth Mailing List <urth at lists.urth.net>
Subject: Re: (urth) Father Inire and SF loathing
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 17:48:37 -0400

On Tuesday 13 June 2006 15:21, don doggett wrote:
 > --- Daniel D Jones <ddjones at riddlemaster.org> wrote:
 > > I don't think the charge is that his _style_ is
 > > pretentious, but that his work
 > > itself is.
 >
 > I think that's a frivolous charge at best, and a lazy
 > one. I assume those who say this think that Wolfe's
 > work tries to rise "above its station" as SF?
 > Pretending to significance in a genre that's by it's
 > nature trite? Or am I way off the mark?

It's not like there's a coherent, monolithic movement, and I've read similar
arguments to those.  But there are those who dismiss the BoTNS as torture
fetishism and The Wizard/Knight as simple wish fulfillment.
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