"V.R.T." - April 24
Tony Ellis · 26 Jul 2006, 19:08
· from 2006-July.txt.gz
This is the message as the crawl holds it, before anything
here touched it. What the conversation shows has been through ingest: transfer
encodings decoded, attachments dropped, quote markers repaired, and the
archiver’s ? resolved into quotation marks and dashes. Those
repairs are judgements and some of them are wrong, which is what this page is
for. Email addresses are obscured here as they are everywhere else on the site,
so it is before our repairs rather than byte for byte.
From: tonyellis69 at btopenworld.com (Tony Ellis) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 20:08:16 +0100 Subject: (urth) "V.R.T." - April 24 Message-ID: <000001c6b0e6$d9b4f6c0$6501a8c0@cthulhu> Ori wrote: >Something has happened to Marsch that makes >him think that he's a half-abo boy named Victor... The similarity of Marsch's bite and Eastwind's is very suggestive, I agree, and something I've often wracked my brains over. However, my problem with your theory is the same problem I had with earlier arguments which said that VRT was delusional and only thinks that he has become Marsch: given so many hints that the abos have some sort of ability of mimicry, doesn't it make more sense to assume that Marsch *has* been replaced by an abo, rather than that he suffers from the curious delusion that he has? If he's delusional, you have to find an alternative explanation for Cassilla's apparent ability to look older at will, and for that of VRT's mother, and for many, many other things. Isn't it simpler to assume that abos can mimic and that this is what has happened here? This is, after all, an SF novel. Such things are allowed. Also, you're mistaken when you say that Eastwind was bitten on the hand, as Marsch/VRT claims to be. Eastwind is bitten on the arm, so you're starting off from a slightly wobblier premise than you might have thought. And finally, don't forget that we don't actually *know* that Marsch/VRT was bitten by the cat at all. If VRT has physically replaced Marsch, this was just a lie to explain the change in handwriting, and there is no mystical cat-bite. All that said, the whole Marsch-Victor-replacement-death thing is one of the most maddeningly enigmatic parts of the whole book. The bite may indeed have happened and may indeed be hugely significant. But I don't think Marsch only thinks he is VRT. Ori also wrote: >There are no aliens. There are no abos. >There are only humans who colonized St. Anne at different times >and whose minds and bodies were colonzied by St. Anne in turn. Here I'm much in agreement with you. But while I think abos and humans are of the same race, I'm not so sure about the Shadow Children. One of the last things the Old Wise One says is that before men came "We were mostly long, and lived between the roots of trees." And later: "Now I am half a man, and know that we were always here... listening without thought of our own to be men." But he leaves the matter ambiguous by adding "or it may be that all are one stock." Thanks Gene.
An unofficial mirror of a public mailing list · about & removal requests · download the archive · before the list · original archive at urth.net