Original Sin and pagan gods

don doggett · 08 Aug 2006, 06:13 · from 2006-August.txt.gz

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From: kingwukong at yahoo.com (don doggett)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 23:13:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: (urth) Original Sin and pagan gods
In-Reply-To: <BAY103-F11C500C8BE2B6CFDE6DFE1D7540 at phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20060808061319.60902.qmail at web32402.mail.mud.yahoo.com>



--- b sharp <bsharporflat at hotmail.com> wrote:

  Ah well, they say all
> successful religions are based on 
> contradiction.
> 
> Dan'l quotes:
> 
> >"...they realized that they were naked. So they
> >sewed fig leaves together to make themselves
> loincloths." Note that they 
> >didn't realize they were >naked and start having
> monkey sex; being naked 
> >_bothered_ them. Why? "I was afraid because
> >I was naked, so I hid," Adam tells God.  The key
> point here being that he 
> >was _afraid_, not >ashamed.
> 
> I still don't get this point about Original Sin not
> being sexual. He made a 
> loincloth.  Doesn't that show he was afraid of his
> penis and what it could 
> do.  If he was afraid of...I dunno,....snakes or 
> lions or thunderstorms he 
> would make a  spear or a treehouse or a poncho
> wouldn't he? What good is a 
> loincloth except covering sexual parts? (some tribal
> men just use a gourd 
> and Red Hot Chili Peppers used only socks on stage 
> ;-).
> 
> Lastly Dan'l says:
> 
> >I'm good with saying that fallen
> angels/demons/pagan gods make suggestions 
> >that humans act on. >But the evil comes from our
> own freely made choices, 
> >or we're automata, which I'm pretty sure >my
> fellow-Catholic Wolfe would 
> >not wish to suggest.
> 
> I'm not sure of that.  I know free will is a strong
> component of most 
> Christian faiths but I am not sure Gene Wolfe fully
> believes that it 
> dominates every decision in our lives.  I found it
> excruciatingly, 
> cringingly important in the Wolfe quote I put in at
> the end of my first 
> "Original Sin and pagan gods" post, where Wolfe says
> he believes in pagan 
> gods as real entities who interacted with humans. 
> These beings are 
> superhuman, they can fool us completely sometimes if
> we are not armed with 
> the proper knowledge.  So we can be tricked into
> doing 
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