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Roy C. Lackey · 10 Aug 2006, 06:43 · from 2006-August.txt.gz

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From: rclackey at stic.net (Roy C. Lackey)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 01:43:57 -0500
Subject: (urth) Hieros
Message-ID: <000c01c6bc48$5e590f80$0b3ec6d8 at rclackey.stic.net>

b sharp wrote:
> (although Roy, your page
>references never match up to my edition).

Really? Unless otherwise specified, when I give page numbers they are for
the original edition, which is usually the hardback; otherwise I indicate
the chapter. The book in question here is URTH. I was citing the page
numbers in the TOR hardback, which is the same edition cited by
Andre-Driussi and Borski in their respective books. A sampling of their
relevant citations all agree with my copy. As it happens, the pagination of
the TOR mass market paperback is also the same as in the hardback.

>Roy says:
>>The "holy slaves" (of which Barbatus and Famulimus are examples) were a
>>race of beings
>>created by the Hierogrammates to serve them in Briah. (URTH, 36) They are
>>not humans, as their living quarters on Tzadkiel's Ship clearly shows.
>
>But, Malrubius' story says the "created beings" escaped to Yesod then had
>to look back to Briah to find (not create) the Hierodules (and humanity).

The exact quote is: "The Hierodules they [the Hierogrammates] have found
too, and formed more quickly, to serve them in this universe." (CITADEL,
chapter XXXIV)

-Roy



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