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Wolfe being clear on 5HoC

Adrian Robert · 22 Sep 2006, 12:41 · from 2006-September.txt.gz

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From: arobert at cogsci.ucsd.edu (Adrian Robert)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 08:41:08 -0400
Subject: (urth) Wolfe being clear on 5HoC
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On Sep 21, 2006, at 7:46 PM, Nathan Spears wrote:

> He refutes this view on the basis of two ideas -- first, the
> writer is not operating in a vacuum, but is a conduit through which
> species- and culture-universal as well as individual experiences
> flow, and second, that what is accessible to conscious control and
> introspection can in no sense be said to make up the entire
> contribution to a creative work as complex as a poem, let alone a
> novel.  There are just too many aspects, too many details, too many
> dimensions to suppose that the author has consciously exerted control
> over every one of them -- yet they are affected and determined
> nonetheless by the author (and that which has influenced him or her).
>
> I will look for the essay, but I can agree with this on the basis  
> of what you have said already.  What I was trying to say was that  
> this shouldn't be the most interesting, dominating aspect of the  
> work, and be pivotal to the interpretation and understanding of  
> it.  I can't shake the feeling that proponents of this type of  
> analysis feel that all an author's skill and craft are the part of  
> the iceberg above the water.  Maybe that is true, but if I ever  
> become convinced that it is so, I will give up reading and find  
> something else to occupy my time.

Well, it's certainly everyone's right to appreciate art however they  
would like to appreciate it. ;)  And I used to hold this kind of "art  
is communication" (or at least "conscious conveyance") view myself.   
However, you give something up by holding to it, which is precisely  
the ability to pick up on the full, broad and various range of  
currents of experience and interpretation that are channeled through  
every artist.  Some of these currents may by nature never find their  
way into conscious awareness during a particular creative process (or  
maybe ANY creative process), but nonetheless end up being reflected  
very powerfully in the result.

Putting preferential weight on the products of the author's conscious  
efforts in some sense implies that the reader / appreciater of an art  
work is less than 50% of the equation.  There IS asymmetry in the  
relation, but accepting a subconscious role in creation means the  
degree to which various themes or contents resonate with the reader  
-- and the interpretations they build around them -- deserve to be on  
equal footing with the author's intent.

But I'm not explaining myself very well -- whereas Jung had a  
different order of communicative skill.  I'll be curious to hear, if  
you do read the essay, how it affects your thinking..



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