Ouen's Catherine
b sharp · 16 Oct 2006, 03:25
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From: bsharporflat at hotmail.com (b sharp) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:25:12 -0400 Subject: (urth) Ouen's Catherine Message-ID: <BAY103-F24408E755B8B4209B66DB6D7090 at phx.gbl> I concur with others who always felt Severian asks about a dark haired woman because his own hair is dark and Ouen is fair. Roy writes: >But I doubt that the maid who played Katharine was actually his mother. >Others have speculated >that the maid was a khaibit, which may be so. If >true, then the woman for whom she was a >khaibit was likely Ouen's >Catherine. The maid playing St. Katharine doesn't change appearance year to year in Severian's memory, which I think suggests she is making use of a kaibit rather than her being one. Can her unchanging appearance be ignored? This maid is described as being of armiger height. If she was the kaibit of an exultant wouldn't she be exultant height? I know some argue the blood transfer is what increases height but that is non-text speculation. I do see some evidence that a kaibit is the twin of her mistress but the blood donation causes a hollow cheeked look. I agree with Thalassocrat that we are supposed to see an echo of Severian's mother in Cyriaca. There is a good chance they were both ex-Pelerines. Cyriaca was sentenced to die for the crime of cuckolding a high official; perhaps Severian's mother also? Who was the dark haired woman with a livd face in the coffin in the first chapter? I think the only two "pale gowns" in the story belong to the woman in the coffin and the woman Severian sees on the Path of Air. I had considered that whoever was in the coffin had played St. Katherine for years and then was replaced after her death. But when Severian participates in the mock execution, he freezes, and the maid cooly prompts him to continue as though she was very familiar with the ritual. For these reasons I've felt that the maid is the real Catherine and it is a kaibit in the coffin. Thea's heart shaped face has a sharp chin that matches Severian's, but so would Thecla's triangular face. Are hollow cheeks an issue here? -bsharp
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