The littlest apprentices
Roy C. Lackey · 02 Nov 2006, 09:16
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From: rclackey at stic.net (Roy C. Lackey) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 03:16:14 -0600 Subject: (urth) The littlest apprentices Message-ID: <001001c6fe5f$8f14efa0$073ec6d8 at rclackey.stic.net> I should probably just let this go, but . . . As I have said, there are no contradictory statements in the text about breast feeding. I will try it one more time. I notice that no one disputed my claim that the height test indicated that there was a third category of children who fell into the hands of the torturers; those small children who were seized along with their mother. These are the children the torturers take who know no breasts. They know no breasts because they have been weaned. The other two groups are the children born naturally to women who were pregnant when placed in a cell, and those who were delivered by C-section because their mother faced imminent excruciation. These latter two groups were both breast fed, the former group by their mother and the latter group by a wet-nurse. All the bases are covered and there is no contradiction. As others have noted, no one who had been a member of the torturers' guild would write in the same paragraph of remembering nursing at a breast and also that the children the torturers take know no breasts unless the conditions imposed by the memory excluded him from the group that knows no breast. The recovered memory was not a sequence of events; it was a still-life image that contained only a few simple components; warm milk from the breast of a woman whose face he could not see, and grayness at the edge of his field of vision. That's all. The rest is emotional reaction to the memory, speculation about the woman's ultimate fate, and the application of prior knowledge about how the guild renews its numbers to those few dream components to deduce that the woman must be his mother. When I wrote, "As I said before, he knew the woman *must* be his mother *because* she was in a cell, *and* he knew "the children the torturers take know no breasts".", I might have added: *and* he knew that C-section babies got wet-nurses, *and* he knew that wet-nurses didn't work in cells, *and* he knew that the mother of a C-section baby would almost certainly be dead. Severian put it all together and concluded that the woman was his mother. Had the color at the edge of his vision been something other than gray, he could not have eliminated the possibility that the woman was a wet-nurse. -Roy
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