Vance and Tokien as influences on D&D

Adam Thornton · 10 Jun 2007, 03:20 · from 2007-June.txt.gz

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From: adam at io.com (Adam Thornton)
Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 22:20:06 -0500
Subject: (urth) Vance and Tokien as influences on D&D
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On Jun 9, 2007, at 8:14 PM, Dave Lebling wrote:

>
> Adam Thornton wrote:
>> Imagine my delight upon finding, early on in _Lolita_, that
>> prostitutes were referred to as _grues_.  The Great Underground  
>> Empire
>> will, I fear, never look quite the same to me.
> Aha! The French "grue" is "crane" (both the bird and the lifting
> device). I suspect that's where Nabokov got it (the bird, I would
> suspect, though I suppose "lifting device" might apply as well).
>
> Imagine my surprise when I first visited Montreal and found in the
> Yellow Pages "location des grues" ("crane rental"). One hopes they are
> rented only in daylight.

I imagine there's not a lot of repeat business if they aren't.

Now I must write a short work of IF, "La Grenouille", in which you  
play the eponym, just so that I can say (shamelessly pasted from  
Google Translate):

Vous ?tes susceptibles d'?tre mang?s par une grue.

Which gets us back to Carroll.  Found *what* advisable?  I'm afraid I  
can't find the bridge back to Wolfe, though.  What *did* the  
archbishop find?

Adam
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