Severian and Merryn
Ian S · 14 Jul 2007, 09:34
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From: greenbook5 at yahoo.com (Ian S) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 02:34:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: (urth) Severian and Merryn In-Reply-To: <1A905D5AFFFCE14BA291E0BB8D0A65BF051ED2F0 at WDCNTEXVS01.corporate.nzpost.co.nz> Message-ID: <172716.51437.qm at web90414.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Jessica, Quite an interesting question. Well, the answer to your query may be be quite simple. Merryn and the Cumean probably 'walk the corridors of time,' to borrow a Wolfensian phrase. That's why Merryn seems to be the same age when Severian met her at the tomb of Apu Punchau ( who is actually Severian from the future-past or the past-future ) as when he met her in the Witches Tower when he was a small boy, if indeed this Merryn is one in the same person. Merryn could have gone into the future, met Severian atop the tomb of Apu Punchau, than gone back to her own relative present day where she could have met the boy Severian at the Wiches Tower the next morning. I'm not saying this is what happened for certain, but it would be the sort of thing that Wolfe might write about. Through what means she may have carried this out ( or more significantly, why ) is debateable and we'll probably never find out, but I suspect it may have been done through devices similar to the one used by Rudesind to get to the House Absolute, though this device moved him through space, rather than through time. Please note the conversation between Severian and Rudesind in 'The Claw of the Conciliator' in Chapter 20, entitled 'Pictures:' " While ago you come looking for Ultan. Didn't you find him? " " Yes, I found him," I said. " But it wasn't a short time ago." He seemd to grow angry at that. " I didn't mean today! But it wasn't long...." I'm not too sure about the courtesan at the House Azure, though. For those interested, please refer to The Shadow of the Torturer, Chapter 9, for Severian's impressions that the Chatelaine Barbea and the Chatelaine Gracia might be the same person. Though ducking into a space/time device to change appearences and then zipping back to the moment you left is a bit unneccessary! If you're a fan of 'Lost,' this may also explain why Richard Alpert does not seem to age either. Ian --- Maclean Jessica <Jessica.Maclean at nzpost.co.nz> wrote: > Hi all > > Having also just re-read the The Claw of the > Conciliator, I respectfully > request some clarification on the Severian and > Merryn twin-thing. I'm at > work so don't have the book with me, but I just > finished it last night > so it's pretty fresh in my mind :-) > > Near the end of the book, it clearly states that > Severian was a small > boy (small enough to have to jump to reach the > knocker) when he went to > the Witches Tower, whereas Merryn looks "old" (to a > small boy) and is > really about 20 years of age. > > I accept that GW himself has stated that Merryn is > probably Severian's > sister (not sure if I have the probably bit right- > please advise! :-) ), > I'm just wondering how that works out... is it magic > that Merryn appears > the same age regardless of her actual age? Cos when > Sev, Dorcas and > Jolenta meet the Cumean, Merryn and Hildegrin atop > Apu Punchau's > building, the Cumean and Merryn look exactly the > same as they did when > little Sev delivered that letter, so long ago... > > On a maybe-not-related note, I can't help but wonder > if Mr Wolfe > deliberately left things vague in his own mind, in > order to preserve > some mystery for us readers? I always thought that > the best way to keep > things secret is not to know yourself, so you can't > give it away... > > Jessica > > ________________________________________ > Jessica Maclean > Customer Liaison > New Zealand Post > ________________________________________ > Tel: 0800 100 318 Fax: 0800 100 319 > e-mail: jessica.maclean at nzpost.co.nz > customerliaison@ <www.nzpost.co.nz > nzpost.co.nz > _______________________________________ > Winners of GOLD at the coveted CRM Contact Centre > Awards 2006 > > Smile, life is good! > This email with any attachments is confidential and > may be subject to legal privilege. > If it is not intended for you please reply > immediately, destroy it and do not copy, disclose or > use it in any way. > > _______________________________________________ > Urth Mailing List > To post, write urth at urth.net > Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net ____________________________________________________________________________________ No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail
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