The poor dragons
Roy C. Lackey · 04 Oct 2007, 05:46
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From: rclackey at stic.net (Roy C. Lackey) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 00:46:40 -0500 Subject: (urth) The poor dragons Message-ID: <000c01c80649$fb2d7a20$47ca5a42 at rclackey.stic.net> Stanislaus wrote: >Pelagians taught that men DO NOT need grace at all, and that they can save themselves by their own effort.<< I know that. That's why (partly) the RC Church declared it was heresy. The other part was that the Pelagians denied the idea of Original Sin. I'll state the basic idea of the heresy, because I want to use it as a possible logical explanation of the religious problems I've been harping about in TWK. (There is also a NEW SUN angle, but I'll save that for another time.) The Pelagians held that Adam's progeny were not contaminated by his sin. Without Original Sin, there was no need for a universal redeemer. Jesus was seen as a good role model, but was not necessary for individual salvation. (It's easy to see why the Church frowned on these ideas.) Man could put himself in good standing with God by leading a good life, leading to salvation. Didn't Wolfe say, somewhere, that in TWK he wanted to show a society where knights existed but where that society was not underpinned by Christianity? Anyway, that seems to be the de facto situation in TWK. If the description of the origins of the Seven Worlds given in the fourth chapter of WIZARD is valid, then there was no Creation (at least not the Genesis variety; we are told that men were raised up from animals), no Garden, no Adam, no Original Sin. There is no evidence that Jesus ever existed in Mythgarthr, or ever would. It's the Pelagian heresy brought to life in fiction. Everything and everyone below Elysion has something wrong with it, in varying degrees, simply because they are something apart from God. Beings are bad, evil, wrong or whatever because they are imperfect. Beings are judged on the basis of their own actions, not what someone else did. My problem, and I think many other readers have the same problem, is reading the book with certain Judeo-Christian preconceptions getting in the way of comprehending what Wolfe actually wrote. If you look at it this way, if you can dismiss those preconceptions and accept Wolfe's Seven Worlds at face value, then a lot of the religious questions simply go away. I don't know why he wrote the story this way, but I think he did. -Roy
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