Questions . . .
Transentient · 27 Nov 2007, 04:17
· from 2007-November.txt.gz
This is the message as the crawl holds it, before anything
here touched it. What the conversation shows has been through ingest: transfer
encodings decoded, attachments dropped, quote markers repaired, and the
archiver’s ? resolved into quotation marks and dashes. Those
repairs are judgements and some of them are wrong, which is what this page is
for. Email addresses are obscured here as they are everywhere else on the site,
so it is before our repairs rather than byte for byte.
From: transentient at gmail.com (Transentient) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:17:04 -0500 Subject: (urth) Questions . . . In-Reply-To: <474B939A.8040103 at io.com> References: <4E82554550FE5149AD4B30A4FEA22492AF8A82 at xchange.briercrest.ca> <474B939A.8040103 at io.com> Message-ID: <A26A7B56-ADF2-4BC0-B900-B3088C62F670 at gmail.com> On Nov 26, 2007, at 10:48 PM, Jeff Wilson wrote: > > >> 3) Is there a deeper significance to the code phrases Vodalus gives >> Severian? There's so much about ships elsewhere in the book (the >> pelagic argosy) - the ship on the tomb Sev rests in as a boy, the >> ship >> he sails to Yesod in - and the Autarch drops the phrase to Sev. as >> he's >> talking about the higher world Severian will eventually travel to. >> Or >> is it "just" a phrase? > > "pelagic" makes it a specific sort of ship, one that sails the high > seas. This distinguishes it from the Tzadkiel, or the riverine vessel > Severian nearly sinks in Urth. Also, argosy can be multiple ships. > Hmm, > perhaps "pelagic" is the only sort of vessel *not* encountered in > Severian's chronicle, though the crypt would seem to depict one. > When I first read those lines, I went and looked up _pelagic_ and found a definition that I thought meant in the very deep, open sea, very far from land. So a "pelagic argosy" is kind of a neat paradox in that way. There you are far, far from the shore, and you see the shore. What's that! I'm scared. See what I mean?
An unofficial mirror of a public mailing list · about & removal requests · download the archive · before the list · original archive at urth.net