PF - Lesage & Ignacio
thalassocrat at nym.hush.com · 15 Dec 2007, 00:09
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From: thalassocrat at nym.hush.com (thalassocrat at nym.hush.com) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 11:09:54 +1100 Subject: (urth) PF - Lesage & Ignacio Message-ID: <20071215000955.6D0542283E at mailserver9.hushmail.com> On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 01:46:17 +1100 paul witcover <gdeonn at yahoo.com> wrote: > > Some fascinating speculation, and I think you may be on to >something re: Ignacio's role in Lesage's betrayal. But Chris is >almost killed in that betrayal; would Iganacio really have >launched an action that could very easily have wound up in the >death of his earlier self, with highly unclear implications for >the causality of his own present (or future) existence? Yep, that's certainly a soggy spot in the theory. I guess Fr Chris could be lying about the events of the night - eg maybe what actually happened was that he was tied up while asleep & left alone, or something. But I'd hate to think that he explicitly lies in the narrative - if there, why not everywhere? It might be worth having another look at yr Lesage-as-dad theory - something around that could also let Lesage know about times & places. Eg: Dad also follows Chris1 back in time, to become Lesage ... But Lesage would have to be old enough for that to fit - around about 40, I think - and I don't know if we have anything suggesting that. Also, I'm convinced that Ignacio is involved somehow - but then again I'm biased against the guy :) > Another thought that's been nibbling at my brain is about the >moment that Chris first encounters the Native American slave he >purchases and then frees (Hoodas, who seems to be the real-life >model for Friday in Crusoe). At that moment, Chris says: "And I >fet as though He were standing right behind me, laying His pierced >hand on my shoulder. This is it, Chris. This is the moment. What >are you going to do?" > > I wonder, only partially seriously, if Chris was brought back >just for this moment, as the answer to Friday's prayers, and >everything else is incidental to that. I thought about that too, but I couldn't do anything much with it. It seems that Hoodas brutally murders the innkeeper & his son at the sack of Maracaibo, which doesn't seem like the kind of thing you'd expect if Jesus had intervened here :) >I also wonder if "Hoodas" >could be a Judas-like character, and that he, rather than Ignacio, >is responsible for Lesage's betrayal. Do we know what becomes of >Hoodas? I assumed that he was one of the many who died in the sea battle with the treasure fleet, but that doesn't have to be so. It is a little odd that he has an (old?) friend on Chris' ship (Red Jack? can't remember) - what's with that?
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