The Tomb of the Unknown Severian

Pedro Pereira · 08 Jan 2008, 22:20 · from 2008-January.txt.gz

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From: domus_artemis at hotmail.com (Pedro Pereira)
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 00:20:44 +0200
Subject: (urth) The Tomb of the Unknown Severian
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That which you say is certainly true, especially if we remember that famous paragraph about the power of symbols and I understand where you?re hinting at. But if we accept that Triskele was brought from the dead than the question becomes mute because Severian by that time had not yet come into possession of the Claw. 
 
He also, if I remember correctly, has no idea that he can bring the dead back to life with the Claw, but still he brings Dorcas. Only later does he connect those two events. Maybe it acted at an uncoscious level in him, but still it doesn?t explain triskele (again, if we accept that it was dead).
 
Pedro
 
> From: matthew at calmeilles.co.uk> To: urth at lists.urth.net> Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 13:20:57 +0000> Subject: Re: (urth) The Tomb of the Unknown Severian> > domus_artemis at hotmail.com wrote:> > > > > > I'm not sure Sev2's Claw ultimately makes a difference, since it is > > > > ultimately just an old thorn.> > > > Jeff is right here (at least to me). The Claw means nothing, it's powerless,> > just a symbol. The true power was with Severian already, not the claw.> > "Just" a symbol surely misses the point: the power of symbols.> > For most of TBotNS Severian _believes_ the claw has power and, if nothing else, that belief precludes any thought that the power might be within him.> > Matthew> > _______________________________________________> Urth Mailing List> To post, write urth at urth.net> Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net
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