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Etymology/meaning/onomatopoeic aspects of the word "Urth"

Lane Haygood · 01 May 2008, 23:22 · from 2008-May.txt.gz

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From: lhaygood at gmail.com (Lane Haygood)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 18:22:18 -0500
Subject: (urth) Etymology/meaning/onomatopoeic aspects of the word "Urth"
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I didn't catch the Yesod/Yetzirah typo. I say "Y" and read right past  
it.

It was my understanding that Malkhut was not the world in which we  
live because it represents the state of spiritual fulfilment that the  
material world lacks. But that may be true for only the schools of  
thought we were studying (Manicheanism, Mandaeanism, Neo-Platonism)  
and not with others. Or I could just be totally confused. That's been  
known to happen.

Lane

On May 1, 2008, at 6:04 PM, brunians at brunians.org wrote:
> I hope it makes sense still after I corrected it!
>
> .
>
>
>> Ah, that makes more sense. I'm actually going to go find my old class
>> notes and update them. :)
>>
>> Lane
>>
>> On May 1, 2008, at 3:32 PM, brunians at brunians.org wrote:
>>>> I think it likely that Briah represents a more primal (spiritual)
>>>> stage of existence, as you say.  Both names (Briah and Yesod) are
>>>> taken from Kabbalah/Gnosticism. Briah is the second of the four
>>>> cabalistic worlds,
>>>
>>> Second from the top.
>>>
>>> Atizluth, Briah, Yesod, Assiah.
>>>
>>>
>>>>                     philosophically the one that relates to the
>>>> instantiated Platonic forms, the world of creation and immanence.
>>>> Yesod, however, is the penultimate stage of cabalistic spiritual
>>>> development, only one step away from the godhead.
>>>
>>> This is not my understanding.
>>>
>>> It is also the means
>>>> by which the manifestation of justice and mercy (Tiferet) seek to
>>>> unite with the Kingdom of God. If I remember correctly, when I
>>>> asked a
>>>> classics scholar friend of mine what "madrigot" meant he told me it
>>>> was "level" in Hebrew. So Severian traveling along the Madrigot
>>>> represents him traveling through levels of spiritual development in
>>>> existence as well as through his own subjective experience of time.
>>>> He's the flowing back of spiritual completeness from beyond Yesod
>>>> that
>>>> bridges Briah with Malkhut.
>>>
>>> You are conflating the sephiroth and the Four Worlds. Although the
>>> Worlds
>>> map onto the sephiroth, they are different systems.
>>>
>>> But there are different schools of thought.
>>>
>>>
>>> .
>>>
>>>
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>> Best,
>> Lane
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Best,
Lane


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