Etymology/meaning/onomatopoeic aspects of the word "Urth"

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From: brunians at brunians.org (brunians at brunians.org)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 20:25:10 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: (urth) Etymology/meaning/onomatopoeic aspects of the word "Urth"
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There are certainly some differences among the various schools. And
confusion does occur, as I know.


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> I didn't catch the Yesod/Yetzirah typo. I say "Y" and read right past
> it.
>
> It was my understanding that Malkhut was not the world in which we
> live because it represents the state of spiritual fulfilment that the
> material world lacks. But that may be true for only the schools of
> thought we were studying (Manicheanism, Mandaeanism, Neo-Platonism)
> and not with others. Or I could just be totally confused. That's been
> known to happen.
>
> Lane
>
> On May 1, 2008, at 6:04 PM, brunians at brunians.org wrote:
>> I hope it makes sense still after I corrected it!
>>
>> .
>>
>>
>>> Ah, that makes more sense. I'm actually going to go find my old class
>>> notes and update them. :)
>>>
>>> Lane
>>>
>>> On May 1, 2008, at 3:32 PM, brunians at brunians.org wrote:
>>>>> I think it likely that Briah represents a more primal (spiritual)
>>>>> stage of existence, as you say.  Both names (Briah and Yesod) are
>>>>> taken from Kabbalah/Gnosticism. Briah is the second of the four
>>>>> cabalistic worlds,
>>>>
>>>> Second from the top.
>>>>
>>>> Atizluth, Briah, Yesod, Assiah.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>                     philosophically the one that relates to the
>>>>> instantiated Platonic forms, the world of creation and immanence.
>>>>> Yesod, however, is the penultimate stage of cabalistic spiritual
>>>>> development, only one step away from the godhead.
>>>>
>>>> This is not my understanding.
>>>>
>>>> It is also the means
>>>>> by which the manifestation of justice and mercy (Tiferet) seek to
>>>>> unite with the Kingdom of God. If I remember correctly, when I
>>>>> asked a
>>>>> classics scholar friend of mine what "madrigot" meant he told me it
>>>>> was "level" in Hebrew. So Severian traveling along the Madrigot
>>>>> represents him traveling through levels of spiritual development in
>>>>> existence as well as through his own subjective experience of time.
>>>>> He's the flowing back of spiritual completeness from beyond Yesod
>>>>> that
>>>>> bridges Briah with Malkhut.
>>>>
>>>> You are conflating the sephiroth and the Four Worlds. Although the
>>>> Worlds
>>>> map onto the sephiroth, they are different systems.
>>>>
>>>> But there are different schools of thought.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>>
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>>> Best,
>>> Lane
>>>
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> Lane
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