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Pedro Pereira · 13 May 2008, 15:16 · from 2008-May.txt.gz

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From: domus_artemis at hotmail.com (Pedro Pereira)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 18:16:55 +0300
Subject: (urth) Other SF writers? (Was: How list works andquestions
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If if you have no problem admitting that, why the vitriolic take on socialism? I like how you are carefull in naming the culprits "Christian organizations" and leaving the christian religion and ideology out to carefully point out the distinction. You should do the same regarding Socialism. One thing is ideology/philoshopy, another thing is what "organizations" (like governments) do in their name. You should know that. More crimes have been commited in the name of democracy than the crimes of Socialism, Communism and Church put together. Should we abandon Democracy?
 
Calling people silly persons is not a pretty thing too, especially when your comentary was a good example of what silly and naive means.> Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 11:10:44 -0400> From: brunians at brunians.org> To: urth at lists.urth.net> Subject: Re: (urth) Other SF writers? (Was: How list works andquestions> > Sure, Christian organizations have also committed vast crimes. I have no> problem admitting that. I'm a Jew, you silly person.> > I do think however, and have no problem arguing the proposition that if> you compare the two the Christians come off a lot better. I am sure that> we would have no problem finding advocates of both positions on the list,> politics is a recurring theme in Gene Wolfe's work and in SF generally, we> are all presumably civilized adults here, I don't see any reason why> ideological and political discussion has no place on this list.> > Quite the contrary, actually.> > > .> > > Like the Church, you mean?> >> > Better mot to turn this into an ideology war, it has no place in this> > list.> Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 09:54:46 -0400> From: brunians at brunians.org>> > To: urth at lists.urth.net> Subject: Re: (urth) Other SF writers? (Was: How> > list works andquestions> > It has slain in its millions and in its tens of> > millions.> > > .> > > You make it sound like socialism is an horrible> > disease.> >> >> Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 20:39:43 -0400> From:> > brunians at brunians.org> To:> >> urth at lists.urth.net> Subject: Re: (urth)> > Other SF writers? (Was: How> >> list works andquestions> > > >> I did not> > like Iron Council and it has> >> left me with a prejudice> >>> > against>Mieville.> > > What is it you> >> didn't like about Iron Council?> > Personally I thought it was> > the> >> weaker of the works and I felt that> > Mieville's socialist message a bit>> >> > labourious.> > Perhaps a bit.> >> > > I think Mievelle has talent but he> >> needs to refine his work.> > Too> > much jibber jabber really.> > I think> >> that communism has made his> > brain rot.> > Now, Moorcock and Delany are> >> also socialists. But I> > think that they are> both excellent writers.> > >> >> .> > > >> > _______________________________________________> Urth Mailing> >> List> To> > post, write urth at urth.net> Subscription/information:> >>> > http://www.urth.net> >> > _________________________________________________________________> >> > Discover the new Windows Vista> >> > http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vista&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE_______________________________________________>> > > Urth Mailing List> > To post, write urth at urth.net> >> > Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net> > >> > _______________________________________________> Urth Mailing List> To> > post, write urth at urth.net> Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net> > _________________________________________________________________> > News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now!> > http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx_______________________________________________> > Urth Mailing List> > To post, write urth at urth.net> > Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net> > > _______________________________________________> Urth Mailing List> To post, write urth at urth.net> Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net
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