What's So Great About Ushas?

Lane Haygood · 09 Jun 2008, 04:36 · from 2008-June.txt.gz

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From: lhaygood at gmail.com (Lane Haygood)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 23:36:19 -0500
Subject: (urth) What's So Great About Ushas?
In-Reply-To: <484CB059.1040907 at io.com>
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Maybe that's the point. No matter how much ends-based reasoning we  
engage in, none of it is ever sufficient to create something truly  
moral, because what is moral must be judged by the propriety of the  
actions in themselves, and not by their consequences.

Lane

On Jun 8, 2008, at 11:23 PM, Jeff Wilson wrote:
> Roy C. Lackey wrote:
>> You can spin the Ushas future into as pretty a picture as you care to
>> imagine and say that everything will work out for the best in the  
>> best of
>> all possible worlds, but the ends still don't justify the means --  
>> unless
>> the Increate had a hand in it. Even if the Hierogrammates only  
>> *believed*
>> they were doing the will of the Increate, that doesn't excuse their  
>> actions.
>> History books and modern newspapers are littered with the dead who  
>> died
>> because someone believed they were doing what God wanted them to do.
>
> How can we objectively distinguish between the two cases? Otherwise,  
> you're merely substituting your judgment for theirs in determining  
> if the Increate "really" wants them to do the deed.
>
> -- 
> Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com
> < http://www.io.com/~jwilson >
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Best,
Lane

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