size of erebus, et al.

Dave Lebling · 21 Jun 2008, 00:23 · from 2008-June.txt.gz

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From: dlebling at hyraxes.com (Dave Lebling)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:23:43 -0400
Subject: (urth) FW: size of erebus, et al.
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Just as Tzadkiel is like an angel, Abaia and the other megatherians are 
like devils; as fallen "angels" is it surprising that they would have 
many of the same capabilities and similar appearance?

-- Dave Lebling, aka vizcacha

b sharp wrote:
> Jeff Wilson says: 
>   
>> The giant keeps to channels on the island most of the time, doesn't he? 
>> I think he owes more to the other ur-story, the Battle of Hampton Roads, 
>> where the Monitor's considerable but not mountainous bulk remains at or 
>> below the waterline with only a 10 x 20 foot turret exposed.
>>     
>
> Yes, me calling the channels "ocean" could be a notable error since we are 
> discussing size. Battle of Hampton Roads! I hadn't heard the Monitor and 
> Merrimac battle called that before; thanks! Anyway, the Naviscaput has a 
> fingertip so I extrapolate that he has a somewhat human body, not just a boat
> shape.
>
> However, I think all debates on the  "true" size of megatherians might be moot. 
> I consider them to be in some way the peers of Tzadkiel:  god-like creatures. 
> And I think the scene where Tzadkiel pinches off a finger to create a human sized
> agent is very important. We see a fairy-sized Tzadkiel later. Could the giant 
> Tzadkiel that Severian talks to be a pinched off version also?  How big is the Tzadkiel
> Severian sees in the old Autarch's book? Planet-sized? Sun sized?  Galaxy-sized?
> That may seem ridiculous but the Hierogrammates are capable of creating as many
> suns as they deem necessary; they might be very very big.
>
> Anyway, I think the megatherians might able to create smaller agents of 
> themselves in similar fashion, enabling them to mate with Juturna and her sisters
> or interact directly with humans, take other shapes, etc.
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