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b sharps's Inire theory

Jeff Wilson · 07 Jul 2008, 03:15 · from 2008-July.txt.gz

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From: jwilson at io.com (Jeff Wilson)
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 22:15:39 -0500
Subject: (urth) b sharps's Inire theory
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Roy C. Lackey wrote:
> Jeff Wilson wrote:
>> Okay, so T's race can take different shapes, and split off independent
>> parts, stipulated. But can T's race take on a multitude of different
>> faces?
> 
> T went from hairy-faced Zak to both male and female faces that aren't
> described but don't look like Zak's. This from the start of the Trial:
> 
> "I knew then that I had seen Tzadkiel before I helped
> Sidero and the rest catch him as Zak, and that the male
> form I saw was no more true (though no less) than the
> winged woman whose glance had stunned me then, and
> that neither was more true, or less, than the animal shape
> that had saved me when Purn had tried to kill me outside his
> cage." (XXI, 151)

But don't the various female forms have immediately recognizable faces? 
How similar is the non-bestial male face to the female face?


>> And where is it writ that Inire is a member of T's race?
> 
> Nowhere.
> 
>> Suppose I am Inire, and too busy doing transcendent things to date. How
>> does it help me quench my desire for a young lady's company to bud off a
>> boatman who departs, perhaps to reunite in 50 or so yeasr, perhaps not,
>> especially when I am already in close cahoots with the owner of a
>> youth-oriented clone bordello?  Surely he could keep a really young one
>> on hand, perhaps in return for a new section of the Botanical Gardens
>> for he and his bees to enjoy?
> 
> To be clear: I still see no real reason the Boatman should be part of the
> Inire cadre, and I think the theory would be the better for taking that
> famous Razor to him -- it would eliminate needless complications. But
> Rudesind had had a wife and kids, and girls seemed to have liked Fechin, or
> he them. Anyway, I suppose it best to think of Inire as just another
> split-off version of a Hierogrammate.

Inire as a Hierogrammate-let, I can buy. It could also be a lead on his 
"real" name, since if Zak is a particle of Tzadkiel, perhaps Inire is a 
subset of "Entire" or "innir vandlega" or something.

-- 
Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com
< http://www.io.com/~jwilson >

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