What's So Great About Ushas?
O'Donnell, Tim BOSI · 10 Jul 2008, 15:55
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From: Tim.O'Donnell at bankofscotland.ie (O'Donnell, Tim (BOSI)) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:55:46 +0100 Subject: (urth) What's So Great About Ushas? Message-ID: <63FB9AC7E0AEC7459DBCC99DC44247CA016C3611 at BOSIDEXDB.Bankofscotland.ie> Sure, I'll take a quick stab at this, being of the aforementioned "Hierogrammates are not as good as they seem" persuasion. They admit to wanting to condition humanity to become the Hieros. This conditioning can come in all sorts of forms, and the spiritual is certainly not to be discounted given how secular Urth is. My contention is that they need a mystical account of what they've done to Urth for it to matter, like a certain other flood, for which they recruit the mostly unwitting Severian to act as a mystic and write The Book of the New Sun as a mystical testament to what otherwise would be a pretty secular and unpleasant occurrence. Don't forget that Urth isn't the only human-inhabited planet, and as the Anchorite mentions if they wanted to save the population there were less murderous ways to do it - planetary evacuation in Ragnarok scenario. I believe this suggests that they instead wanted to do something else to the population, and Severian's mystical roles as Apu Punchau, the Conciliator, and the Sleeper may well have something to do with it. I see him as a social engineering tool. Curious about others' opinions though, myself. Paul _______________ I guess my problem with that is - why tell the humans that the Hieros are going to wipe out the planet? Just cause the flood anyway and then tell the survivors and those repopulating the Earth that it was a natural disaster. Then you could instil in the people the idea that the Hieros were the ultimate saviours of man by helping them post-flood. I am not a Catholic and have no particular axe to grind but any other explanation of the Hieros seems unnecessary to me. The Hieros are a higher order of imperfect vessels attempting to become like God. It doesn't mean that their solution was perfect, but that in no way means they are evil. ************************************************************************************************ Find out more about us at www.bankofscotland.ie <http://www.bankofscotland.ie> The information contained in this message is confidential and is intended for the addressee only. If you have received this message in error or there are any problems please notify the originator immediately. The unauthorised use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. This mail and any attachments have been scanned for viruses prior to leaving Bank of Scotland Ireland's network. Bank of Scotland Ireland will not be liable for direct, special, indirect or consequential damages arising from alteration of the contents of this message by a third party or as a result of any virus being passed on. Bank of Scotland (Ireland) reserves the right to monitor and record e-mail messages sent to and from this address for the purposes of investigating or detecting any unauthorised use of its system and ensuring its effective operation. Bank of Scotland (Ireland) Limited is part of HBOS plc and is regulated by the Financial Regulator. Registered in Ireland Number: 8454. Registered office: Bank of Scotland House, 124-127 St. Stephens Green, Dublin 2 **************************************************************************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.urth.net/pipermail/urth-urth.net/attachments/20080710/a8a9b44e/attachment.htm>
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