What's So Great About Ushas
b sharp · 12 Jul 2008, 04:30
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From: bsharporflat at hotmail.com (b sharp) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 00:30:36 -0400 Subject: (urth) What's So Great About Ushas Message-ID: <BAY103-W325E04E1CCEA7D93DA5FD7D7930 at phx.gbl> Paul B, I still think you are missing the crucial factor and thus missing some of the best of what science fiction and religious philosophy has to offer in regard to the superhuman (and sorry if my last post sounded testy, it wasn't meant to). Your example of a surgeon harvesting organs from a "worthless" bum to save "great" men demonstrates my position quite well, so I'll use it. Despite your assertion that the surgeon has foresight in this situation you are wrong. The surgeon is only guessing, making a judgement that the bum is worthless and that the men he saves are great and more worthy of life. The surgeon has no way to know with certainty whether the bum would become a world-saving saint if he had lived another year. Or if one of the great men he saves will become a genocidal monster within a year. He is gambling with people's lives and dealing out death based on his own limited value judgements. That is why utilitarianism is a bankrupt basis for morality; it involves gambling. Gambling with other people's lives but relying on less than perfect knowledge and judgement. Yep, the surgeon here is "playing God". But God (or a god-like omniscient being) is not gambling or making individual value judgements in his/her/its actions. God knows exactly what the bum and the great men will become within a year and beyond. He not only knows that, he knows what the exact impact of a death or a life or even the flap of a butterfly's wing will have on every single other living creature on earth, yea the effect it will have on every quark and every galaxy in the universe through eternity. No gambling involved at all. This sort of certainty of consequences places God in a moral postion impossible to compare to your surgeon or Gandhi or any other human being. We cannot judge such a God or understand it because it is so far from human comprehension. But I will go out on a limb to suggest that God's omniscience in understanding of consequences is so complete as to offer no choices of action. All that is done must be done to provide the best possible outcome. In other words, God has no free will. And thus God has a moral position equal to a rock and the equivalence to a rock in being subject to moral judgement by humans. -bsharp _________________________________________________________________ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_video_072008
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