Wolfe Heretic?
John Watkins · 16 Jul 2008, 17:48
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From: john.watkins04 at gmail.com (John Watkins) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:48:21 -0400 Subject: (urth) Wolfe Heretic? In-Reply-To: <E1CD01D1-FC4C-4479-B961-D8DEC59C1A8B at io.com> References: <BAY103-W1816BD1A424980BA227D44D78C0 at phx.gbl> <3e1fa2e90807152100o551074e5ud02c8c1bd4391612 at mail.gmail.com> <15592.67.142.130.22.1216181948.squirrel at brunians.org> <3e1fa2e90807152134r3da27b18n8bee01f46e2fbc60 at mail.gmail.com> <487DF9BB.1070303 at io.com> <AEABC37C-0944-480F-9EC2-F86807B6D8BE at io.com> <cdbc18280807160953x6cf8e583g73c16345cae4feea at mail.gmail.com> <2D840DD2-7B38-44A0-92A6-317917B1D94A at io.com> <14800.72.171.0.142.1216228650.squirrel at brunians.org> <E1CD01D1-FC4C-4479-B961-D8DEC59C1A8B at io.com> Message-ID: <93d4039f0807161048x2f0f9f64wae0e77189c2aa533 at mail.gmail.com> Catholic Christianity neither currently nor historically requires pacifism. Wolfe is not a heretic. He plays with extra-orthodox but not unorthodox ideas, if that's clear--he believes or seems to believe many things that are permissible but not required for a Catholic, but I've yet to encounter an overt endorsement of some doctrine that Catholics are forbidden to hold in his works. As for Manicheanism, I don't detect much of that in his works at all. Manicheanism is dualistic, and the cosmology of The Wizard-Knight more or less explicitly rejects dualism, as do a number of bits and pieces throughout the Urth cycle. On 7/16/08, Adam Thornton <adam at io.com> wrote: > > > On Jul 16, 2008, at 12:17 PM, brunians at brunians.org wrote: > > >> Seriously: we're supposed to be talking about the writings of someone >>> who is ... famously Catholic, with ... some really nonstandard theology, >>> >> >> I know Wolfe considers himself to be orthodox. What bits of heresy do you >> accuse him of? I don't see any that's explicitly in there.... >> > > The outright rejection of pacifism (which I believe is pretty clear in the > interviews) seems to directly repudiate much of the Sermon on the Mount, > which I think I am being pretty orthodox in believing to be among the very > centralmost of Christian positions (although, yes, of course you can point > to the moneychangers, and, yes, then you can point to Christ carrying a > scourge...but I think that most orthodox theologians would react pretty > violently to the suggestion of Christ-as-Torturer, which is among the > fundamental metaphors underlying the New Sun). > > I keep getting whiffs of Manicheanism as well, although that is proving > much harder to pin down. > > Adam > _______________________________________________ > Urth Mailing List > To post, write urth at urth.net > Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.urth.net/pipermail/urth-urth.net/attachments/20080716/96404178/attachment-0001.htm>
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