What's So Great About Ushas?
John Watkins · 16 Jul 2008, 17:53
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From: john.watkins04 at gmail.com (John Watkins) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:53:44 -0400 Subject: (urth) What's So Great About Ushas? In-Reply-To: <23C90E9D-2ADC-49B6-A4ED-DD8C7D2B59F9 at io.com> References: <BAY103-W1816BD1A424980BA227D44D78C0 at phx.gbl> <3e1fa2e90807152100o551074e5ud02c8c1bd4391612 at mail.gmail.com> <15592.67.142.130.22.1216181948.squirrel at brunians.org> <3e1fa2e90807152134r3da27b18n8bee01f46e2fbc60 at mail.gmail.com> <487DF9BB.1070303 at io.com> <AEABC37C-0944-480F-9EC2-F86807B6D8BE at io.com> <cdbc18280807160953x6cf8e583g73c16345cae4feea at mail.gmail.com> <2D840DD2-7B38-44A0-92A6-317917B1D94A at io.com> <20080716172549.GB29492 at broggs.org> <23C90E9D-2ADC-49B6-A4ED-DD8C7D2B59F9 at io.com> Message-ID: <93d4039f0807161053x52460f9ie8d778973e60f98a at mail.gmail.com> I read Severian's consumption of Thecla, at least, as another instance of Wolfe's "evil masquerading as good turns out to be good via divine action." To Vodalus and his cronies, the feast is a Black Mass, but to Severian, via the power of the Claw/the New Sun, it is an act akin to the Eucharist, as he really does achieve a mystical communion with a sort of resurrected Thecla. On 7/16/08, Adam Thornton <adam at io.com> wrote: > > > On Jul 16, 2008, at 12:25 PM, Jeffrey Brent McBeth wrote: > >> While I didn't find your comment particularly inflammatory (I'm a bit >> biased >> against the target, so I'm not a fair judge), I think the claim that the >> comment was more than tangentially connected to the topic at hand to be a >> bit more of a stretch than even this group is accustomed to :) >> > > It's a fair cop. > > And, with regard to the Flood....perhaps modern society overly plays DOWN > the "death and" aspect of the death-and-rebirth that baptism IS. > > That is....maybe baptism is SUPPOSED to make you feel like you're drowning, > and, if I were being--just suppose--a reactionary Catholic who really thinks > Vatican II was a lousy idea (this is a position I am merely arrantly > speculating about, with no indication that Wolfe actually believes it)--I > might actually *want* to revisit the idea that my religion was, in fact, a > much scarier thing than the > smiling-nice-forgiveness-and-bunnies-and-little-tweeting-birds thing that my > effete society would like to present it as. (_Pirate Freedom_ certainly > takes the position that mealymouthed-niceness-is-corrosive pretty damn > explicitly.) > > So, let's remind the readers that rebirth means *having to die > first*....and, hey, for an encore, anyone want to talk about the brain feast > as Holy Communion? One presumes it's a Black Mass--that is, a ghastly > *parody* of Communion--but I wonder if the opposite case can be made? > > Adam > _______________________________________________ > Urth Mailing List > To post, write urth at urth.net > Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.urth.net/pipermail/urth-urth.net/attachments/20080716/7d538156/attachment.htm>
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