Wolfe Heretic?
Matthew Knight · 16 Jul 2008, 18:40
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From: jacobeiserman at gmail.com (Matthew Knight) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:40:11 -0500 Subject: (urth) Wolfe Heretic? In-Reply-To: <6EEC6C7E-119C-4BF5-81AC-B9C2374454B0 at io.com> References: <BAY103-W1816BD1A424980BA227D44D78C0 at phx.gbl> <AEABC37C-0944-480F-9EC2-F86807B6D8BE at io.com> <cdbc18280807160953x6cf8e583g73c16345cae4feea at mail.gmail.com> <2D840DD2-7B38-44A0-92A6-317917B1D94A at io.com> <14800.72.171.0.142.1216228650.squirrel at brunians.org> <E1CD01D1-FC4C-4479-B961-D8DEC59C1A8B at io.com> <93d4039f0807161048x2f0f9f64wae0e77189c2aa533 at mail.gmail.com> <092CEF84-9BFC-4321-A4DC-4266D94FC3DF at io.com> <93d4039f0807161106x1d1d6da6j873076c8ed05bfbc at mail.gmail.com> <6EEC6C7E-119C-4BF5-81AC-B9C2374454B0 at io.com> Message-ID: <e66c0a2e0807161140m43c1d458s289c497ce516ccdf at mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Adam Thornton <adam at io.com> wrote: > Whoa, whoa, whoa. Is it actually a permitted doctrine in Catholicism >> that faith in non-Christian religions can have salvific power? Doesn't that >> explicitly contradict John 14:6? Which is *another* of what I--brought up >> in, admittedly, a faith without, to be kind, much of a formal intellectual >> tradition--considered to be one of those bedrock passages. >> >> Adam >> > No less a Christian luminary than C.S. Lewis--admittedly an Anglican rather than a Catholic, but one whom I recall Gene Wolfe mentioning as an influence--implied believing that non-Christian religions, while not necessarily possessed of "salvific power" themselves, could have many true believers within their ranks who unconsciously deduced the truth of the Christian religion through the false disguise of their own religion and be saved without explicitly recognizing Christianity. (Stated most explicitly in "The Last Battle", where a kind Calormene soldier and devout believer in Tash is accepted into the Narnian equivalent of heaven.) Also, as a member of a historically pacifist Christian sect (the Mennonites), I can state unequivocally that pacifism is NOT a "do-or-die" article of the Christian orthodox mainstream. Many Mennonites were tortured, murdered, and otherwise persecuted by the Catholic and Protestant authorities for their "heretical" views in the early 16th century (advocating not only pacifism but the separation of Church and State). And not to stir up a can of worms...but George W. Bush. Need I say more? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.urth.net/pipermail/urth-urth.net/attachments/20080716/73e995f2/attachment.htm>
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