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Wolfe Heretic?

Jeff Wilson · 17 Jul 2008, 06:14 · from 2008-July.txt.gz

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From: jwilson at io.com (Jeff Wilson)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 01:14:23 -0500
Subject: (urth) Wolfe Heretic?
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John Smith wrote:
> I won't try to defend the Crusades but you're giving
> the hymn  "Onward, Christian Soldiers" a bad rap.  
> The hymn does not promote militarism.     The
> "Christian soldiers" are not military men who are
> waging war on heathens.   They are Christians who are
> urged to advance Christian ideals LIKE soldiers going
> into battle.   Listen to the words and I think you'll
> agree.

II Timothy 2:3 (KJV): "Thou shalt endure hardness, as a good soldier of 
Jesus Christ."

It doesn't have to be literal military action, using martial similies 
and metaphors for correct behavior is still an approval of militarism. 
You don't see hyms that say, "onward Christian harlots" or "onward 
Christian usurers" do you?

-- 
Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com
< http://www.io.com/~jwilson >

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