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Bruce Hayles · 01 Oct 2008, 20:27
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From: brucehayles at gmail.com (Bruce Hayles) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 16:27:51 -0400 Subject: (urth) a lurker asks a question In-Reply-To: <5D4365B3-2979-4932-B53F-798BF7338024 at io.com> References: <620232.4000.qm at web59612.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <9810F13BE98C4150848CCF5358CDC460@GATEWAY> <F9586CE5-4224-4B26-AF21-09FB9BE095AF at io.com> <48E3002D.5070308 at io.com> <26b0d2e40809302308s71834b8ete1a5c7b3b7976d70 at mail.gmail.com> <5D4365B3-2979-4932-B53F-798BF7338024 at io.com> Message-ID: <8476d0320810011327n9460a83n1d3b30d65893bb1a at mail.gmail.com> Gwern mentioned an interview with Gene Wolfe saying that Severian is an intellectual that doesn't know he is an intellectual. "It's a pity you are a torturer, " Ultan said. "You might have been a philosopher..." on pg 47. Reading Severian's narrative, I can't help but think he is an intellectual; but his narrative never really reveals that he thinks of himself as such (consistent with the quote from Wolfe). I don't recall specific instances, but Severian does think of himself as dense. For example, when he cannot explain why the claw only heals at certain times he thinks himself slow. So maybe this chapter serves to validate the idea that Severian is an intellectual by showing that other people (Ultan) think so. Along the same line, the chapter points out of incongruity of Severian as a torturer. We are forced to compare Cyby and Severian. On pg 45 Ultan describes the process whereby apprentices are selected. "He hesistated, and though I could discern no expression on his face, I received the impression that he feared what he was about to say might cause Cyby pain." And afterwards, when Severian says that the guild takes such children as they can, Ultan mutters, "We do the same." The implication seems to be that Cyby is a less than ideal apprentice. This combined with Ultan's previous observation of Severian's intellectualism seems to suggest an alternate reality in which Severian was an apprentice to the librarian. I would like to draw this out further by saying that Cyby is incurious and would make a good torturer, but I do not see any evidence for it in the text (perhaps I missed it.) Another purpose of the chapter is to show the internal conflict Severian is having between his pledge to Vodalus and his duty to his guild. He asks Severian whose apprentice he is, and Severian hesitates (long enough for Ultan to actually repeat his question) and recalls the scene with Vodalus. Clearly Severian has yet to come to terms with his acceptance of the chrisos (the pledge to Vodalus) and his duty to the guild. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.urth.net/pipermail/urth-urth.net/attachments/20081001/c386dee7/attachment.htm>
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