Severian / Christ / Logos / Apocatstasis

Son of Witz · 24 Nov 2008, 19:56 · from 2008-November.txt.gz

This is the message as the crawl holds it, before anything here touched it. What the conversation shows has been through ingest: transfer encodings decoded, attachments dropped, quote markers repaired, and the archiver’s ? resolved into quotation marks and dashes. Those repairs are judgements and some of them are wrong, which is what this page is for. Email addresses are obscured here as they are everywhere else on the site, so it is before our repairs rather than byte for byte.

From: sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org (Son of Witz)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:56:00 +0000
Subject: (urth) Severian / Christ / Logos / Apocatstasis
Message-ID: <W56332606481951227556560@webmail39>

>But this is pretty far afield.  I'll only add that in my experience,
>converts to the Catholic Church tend to be more orthodox and more
>ardent in their views than cradle Catholics.

Fair enough. We've all met zealous converts.

>and the ones there are, such as the Filioque, are relatively minor
>issues compared to the disciplinary and organizational differences
>between the churches.

I said the same thing to an Orthodox believer.
boy, that was like stepping in Shit.
NOT a small matter to them.
that small doctrinal change leads to all the sorts of things I mentioned.

but I can't really argue that in depth, its just that I've been the one saying what you just wrote, and I had to hear about it for a LONG time and in much depth.  Jordon here was a witness, and it was a loaded, difficult discussion indeed.
It may be telling that the discussion was with a convert to Orthodoxy. ha!

~witz

An unofficial mirror of a public mailing list · about & removal requests · download the archive · before the list · original archive at urth.net