Severian / Christ / Logos / Apocatastasis

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From: brunians at brunians.org (brunians at brunians.org)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:09:04 -0500 (EST)
Subject: (urth) Severian / Christ / Logos / Apocatastasis
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> nor me.  No one is interested in my beliefs here.

Cathaholics, aka Recovering Catholics are not unique on the American scene.

To evoke interest one must be interesting.



Brian:

You are all individuals!

Voice In Crowd:

I'm not!

-- Monty Python




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Everyone's got an
> asshole - er - opinion I mean.
>
>
>>or to my point that Christian
>>speculative fiction writers have been writing Christian speculative
>>fiction, reworking elements of Christian myth into their own
>>mythologies for over a century now.  If you don't believe me, well,
>>check your local movie theatre or video store.  Tolkien, Lewis,
>>Charles Williams, George MacDonald, Madelaine L'Engle, J.K. Rowling (I
>>actually think there's a nod to Wolfe in Deathly Hallows, albeit
>>subtle)--Wolfe is not some brave, lonely eccentric.  He's part of a
>>vibrant literary tradition.
>
> I see,  yes, Wolfe is not Novel in this regard.
> I'm familiar with Tolkien and Lewis.  But what I meant about ballsy is how
> twisted and macabre Wolfe's take is.  If Frodo is Christ (or something),
> it's hardly twisted. he's good and meek and does his duty.  If the Lion is
> Christ, well hes just and virtuous and strong (sorry, been a long time
> since I read Lewis). I mean, there is not much for a Christian to get up
> in arms about.  But I guarantee if I threw this story at my Catholic
> relatives, they'd think it much more evil than they think Harry Potter is.
> (which I've not read, though I expect my son will want me too in a few
> years. are they any good? I read a page and thought it dull language)
>
> There is a general rejection of Christ in our modern world. I've become
> fairly sensitive to it as I've come to map what I feel to what others call
> Christ.  I live in San Francisco, and nearly ALL of the local reviews of
> the recent Narnia film had something insulting to say about the Christ
> allegory.  It's like "Christ, ooh, doo doo!" and they turn their nose up.
> I can't give too many examples, but I see people running away, and
> actively rejecting anything that looks Christian, DAILY.  I can reject The
> Church and the Pope all day long, but what's wrong with Christ?  That our
> secular world rejects it out of habit seems to show how completely our
> values are inverted.
>
> I'll be honest, I feel that some of the arguments given against my posts
> here seem to be coming from that territory.  As if it's fun and cool to
> play with comparative mythology all day long, as long as you don't get
> into that stinky Christian territory.
>
> ---- This reminds me. I was looking at kindergartens for my son to go to,
> (they make you jump through flaming hoops in SF) and one school's library
> had a shelf of books on Religion. They had just about everything
> represented, EXCEPT Christianity. As if "we want to embrace diversity but
> not the dominant one of the land"
>
>
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